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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who said that it was a myth?

    Do you have a link?
    Google "knockout game myth"

    Here's one: Reports: Alleged trend of 'knockout game' a myth
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
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    o then is any crime committed by a person of one race against someone of another race a hate crime?







    You should be able to figure that out for yourself.

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You should be able to figure that out for yourself.
    I have my answer, I was asking someone that to get their opinion. But thanks for quoting me and then adding nothing. That was helpful.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Probably the reason the feds got in the picture is to try to change the view that the "knock out game" is something only African-Americans do - thus try to gain publicity by prosecuting a white guy.

    Because the nature of the assault is such as to have a real possibility of causing death or permanent brain damage, it should be treated as attempted murder in all instances. It does knock people out whose head then hits the concrete hard - and that is known can be lethal.
    Seriously? If a single punch is now attempted murder then we will likely see a huge decrease in successful prosecution (attempted murder is much harder to prove than simple assault) and a huge increase in validated street executions. If I goad someone into striking me (attempted murder) then obviously I can shoot them for making that attempt.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Well... I guess the knock out game isn't a myth now! /smh
    The elevation of assault to a super crime based on motive, victim/perp status is stupid and should be unconstitutional. Much like selling cocaine in crack form is considered a more serious crime than selling cocaine in powdered form.

    The last similar crime elevation (that I can recall) was for carjacking and for much the same reasons - the class of the normal victim/perp. The crime of carjacking originated simply because many vehicle security systems actually work and are hard for morons to defeat; it is easier to wait for the soccer mom to first unlock and start the vehicle (at the mall) and then take it. Carjacking is already two serious crimes, motor vehicle theft and (often) armed robbery - but those crimes typically got lighter sentences and the victims were not normally soccer moms. So society invented the new offense of carjacking rather than simply apply harsher penalties for the original crimes.

    I see the "knock out" assault crime in the same way; it is outrageous that "they" would hit "us". This allows elevation of assault to a new super crime in only some cases, but leaves a wrist slap sentence available for most "regular" assaults.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    The reason this was prosecuted as a hate crime is because the assailant used demeaning racial epithets and said that blacks hadn't fully "experienced the blessing of evolution" in other videos he made. So we already know that the assailant is a racist and so when he attacked this black man, it was seen as a hate crime.

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    once again.... why should anyone be surprised??? This administration has been racially motivated from the get-go. So much for equal protection under the law. All crimes are hate crimes, the distinction is of little value except to the professionally entitled.

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    They're saying the "TREND" is a myth, not the game itself.
    so... you only read the url's, huh?

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The reason this was prosecuted as a hate crime is because the assailant used demeaning racial epithets and said that blacks hadn't fully "experienced the blessing of evolution" in other videos he made. So we already know that the assailant is a racist and so when he attacked this black man, it was seen as a hate crime.
    I don't think there is much question at all that there was a racial element to this assault but other similar assaults have also had a racial or ethnic element to them and the DoJ has not bothered to get involved.

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Odd that we have heard about so many black assailants but none have been charged with hate crimes......coincidence......maybe

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