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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Probably the reason the feds got in the picture is to try to change the view that the "knock out game" is something only African-Americans do - thus try to gain publicity by prosecuting a white guy.

    Because the nature of the assault is such as to have a real possibility of causing death or permanent brain damage, it should be treated as attempted murder in all instances. It does knock people out whose head then hits the concrete hard - and that is known can be lethal.

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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Holder is such a putz.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Well... I guess the knock out game isn't a myth now! /smh
    The self fullfilling Rightwing News cycle!

    They convince their readers/viewers of a vicious campaign to knock out white people...one of their readers/viewers are CONVINCED! it's a wide spread phenomenon not getting enough attention so they record themselves saying this

    The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?” Mr. Barrett says in the video, according to the authorities.
    and the fact he's prosecuted! Rightwingers are vindicated!The game both exists and Obama hates whites!
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

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    BROOKLYN — A mother was sucker punched while crossing a Midwood street with her 7-year-old daughter in broad daylight, police said.

    Police described the suspect as a man with short braids, about 5-foot-8 and weighing 180 pounds. He wore a black wool cap, green jacket, and dark jeans, officials said
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    So then is any crime committed by a person of one race against someone of another race a hate crime?
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    So then is any crime committed by a person of one race against someone of another race a hate crime?
    Only if the motivation of the crime was based partly or solely on the victims race.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Only if the motivation of the crime was based partly or solely on the victims race.
    From the article:

    The “game” has spawned a fierce debate since many of the reported victims have been white and their assailants have been black, but hate crimes charges have been all but non-existent.

    I think it is a little odd that if a black kid plays this "game" on a white victim it is a crime. Now that we have this instance of a white kid "playing" with a black victim now it is a hate crime. Some of the videos that I have seen of this "game" black kids are specifically pointing out white people. I'm not really sure that in either instance it is a hate crime, however, if one is they should have been looking at this for all these assholes. Hell, even if you were to take out the race factor, generally speaking these people are targeting the elderly. All these guys have a target type of some sort in mind.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Hate crime legislation is just utter stupidity writ large. A Crime is a Crime is a Crime.

    Imagine, a white man attacks and beats another white man, he get's say 2 years in Jail for it.

    Another White man attacks a black man, he get's 10 years in Jail.

    Both attacks are basically the same in injuries to the victims, but in one, "race" mattered (I use white and black as just examples, insert any you want okay ppl) and thus was one persons pain is less important that another persons. It is all hogwash if you ask me.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    From the article:

    The “game” has spawned a fierce debate since many of the reported victims have been white and their assailants have been black, but hate crimes charges have been all but non-existent.

    I think it is a little odd that if a black kid plays this "game" on a white victim it is a crime. Now that we have this instance of a white kid "playing" with a black victim now it is a hate crime.
    It depends on the situation - if the white kid specifically targeted a black person... yes it SHOULD be the same the other way around as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Some of the videos that I have seen of this "game" black kids are specifically pointing out white people. I'm not really sure that in either instance it is a hate crime, however, if one is they should have been looking at this for all these assholes. Hell, even if you were to take out the race factor, generally speaking these people are targeting the elderly. All these guys have a target type of some sort in mind.
    If the target isn't race specific or picked because of their race - then I'd suspect it's not a hate crime - just a crime of opportunity. Same with the elderly. However, the double standard of white on black = race hate and black on white = "justice" for hundreds of years of slavery; those things are alive and well 160+ years after slavery was outlawed by the United States.
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    Re: Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It depends on the situation - if the white kid specifically targeted a black person... yes it SHOULD be the same the other way around as well.

    If the target isn't race specific or picked because of their race - then I'd suspect it's not a hate crime - just a crime of opportunity. Same with the elderly. However, the double standard of white on black = race hate and black on white = "justice" for hundreds of years of slavery; those things are alive and well 160+ years after slavery was outlawed by the United States.
    Dont give me any justice for slavery bull****. None of these kids have ever been slaves, none of their victims have been slave owners. That is completely rediculous. Every race at some point has been slaves, and slave owners. It is part of the past of humans. Unless you have some actual evidence that these kids were enslaved by these victims. Because to say that a long time ago someone the same color as me was enslaved by someone the same color as him somehow justifies any type of action whatsoever in the name of justice is racist in itself.
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