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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    In a perfect world type scenario I would be in full agreement with you, but as long as we are pursuing interests in the region with a focus in Afghanistan we are stuck with them. For better or worst
    The fact that we're not in a perfect world is why I don't advocate cutting our ties with Pakistan completely, sealing off the Afghan/Pakistani border to quarantine them, and then letting them deal with the Taliban - their Frankenstein - on their side of the border. Because of Pakistan's unique role in the Afghanistan conflict and because of the presence of many terrorists in Pakistan who wish to destabilize Afghanistan, I agree with you that Pakistan is a necessary partner in achieving our aims in Central Asia. However, it should at least be acknowledged that the current situation - us providing indefinite aid to an unstable country only to be rewarded by covert (and sometimes overt) support for the enemies that we paid them to fight in the first place - is untenable, and that we should expand our alliances with other countries (such as India) while adjusting our policy towards Pakistan in accordance with the country's political reality.
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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    hope he's not holding his breath. His O'ness would not rescue his own ambassador, why should he give a damn about this guy?
    Perhaps you'd be happy if the O'ness shouted nonstop "America does not negotiate with terrorists" then, behind the scenes, he could sell weapons to Iran to fund a war in that region that congress rejected.

    Nahhh.. you'd probably still not approve. It takes an (R) beside their name to get some people's approval I suppose.
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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps you'd be happy if the O'ness shouted nonstop "America does not negotiate with terrorists" then, behind the scenes, he could sell weapons to Iran to fund a war in that region that congress rejected.

    Nahhh.. you'd probably still not approve. It takes an (R) beside their name to get some people's approval I suppose.
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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    The fact that we're not in a perfect world is why I don't advocate cutting our ties with Pakistan completely, sealing off the Afghan/Pakistani border to quarantine them, and then letting them deal with the Taliban - their Frankenstein - on their side of the border.
    that's probably much easier said than done. Those remote high-pass regions in Asia are notoriously rugged and are full of numerous blinds, false summits, caves, etc. That's what makes them so ideal for bandits and outlaws and why they served as a hideout for such types throughout history

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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps you'd be happy if the O'ness shouted nonstop "America does not negotiate with terrorists" then, behind the scenes, he could sell weapons to Iran to fund a war in that region that congress rejected.

    Nahhh.. you'd probably still not approve. It takes an (R) beside their name to get some people's approval I suppose.
    If there was an intended point to be made by your comment... it never got loose. I submitted a comment on the irony of the situation, nothing more. but i guess you read what you want....

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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    If there was an intended point to be made by your comment... it never got loose. I submitted a comment on the irony of the situation, nothing more. but i guess you read what you want....
    I guess someone is unfamiliar with Iran contra. Further proving my point of your selective outrage.
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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I guess someone is unfamiliar with Iran contra. Further proving my point of your selective outrage.
    Again... I'm neither unfamiliar, nor selectively outraged. Does adding words and ideas onto people's comments make it take you longer to read things??

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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps you'd be happy if the O'ness shouted
    nonstop "America does not negotiate with terrorists" then, behind the scenes, he could sell weapons to Iran to fund a war in that region that congress rejected.

    Nahhh.. you'd probably still not approve. It takes an (R) beside their name to get some people's approval I suppose.
    Well you coulda stopped right there ... I suspect you may be the only one who still believes whatever the hell he's shouting.

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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    I think maybe the most transparent administration ever could try to "negotiate" (read: pressure ... threaten) an (ahem) ally like Pock-ees-tahn without having it plastered all over the news to show how tough they are.
    But that effort wouldn't fit in with the nationalization of the healthcare system component of their redistribution plans so I wouldn't count on it.

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    Re: American kidnapped in Pakistan begs Obama to negotiate with al Qaeda for his rele

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Well you coulda stopped right there ... I suspect you may be the only one who still believes whatever the hell he's shouting.
    Considering all the behind-the-scene maneuvering going on, is there any wonder that people don't trust our government? They get us into wars that sacrifice our young people, and we don't half the time understand why! The media helps by telling us who we need to hate this month, and people buy it? Unfortunately, yes. Case in point: We're now supposed to believe that Al Queda are our friends, after being told for years they are the enemy we are fighting? Right! .Welcome to 1984!

    Greetings, bubba.

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