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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Sure could ... those people are like mice ... if it's not the same ones coming back they're new ones reproducing too fast to keep up.

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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, it's not. Trying to reduce complex situations to simple ones shows either a lack of knowledge of how the world works or an intentional dishonesty necessary to achieve criticism you insist on leveling.

    A lie is not a lie. If I lie to police in a murder investigation, intentionally trying to throw them off the trail of the suspect, that's a significantly different lie than if I told my police officer buddy at the diner a whopper about how big of a fish I caught last weekend. A lie is not a lie, and for you to try and claim so is simply false.

    Again, ignoring the NYT article which says it's not really a lie, no it's not. As I said, Nixon didn't resign for telling lies, he was going to be impeached for breaking the law. Take your partisan blinders off for a second and just think how ridiculous your statement is right now.

    Again, if we ignore the evidence from the NYT article, the lie very possibly could have saved the lives of many more Americans and their intelligence assets. It seems rather hypocritical to be upset about lying about the deaths of Americans, when said lies possibly protected the lives of Americans.
    The regime knew prior to the video brew-ha-ha that an attack was possible. They were derelict in taking the appropriate measures to protect American personell. Four Americans died as result. Then, they LIED about everything.

    That's a big ass lie...
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A lie is a lie. This lie is bigger than any lie told by Nixon. The people lied about how Americans got murdered.
    Forget it ap ... the foxy one decided long ago he's gonna believe who he wants to believe no matter how preposterous.

    Now he's resorted to fantasies about the Obama team lying to protect our M.E. security apparatus and that it's silly to suspect Obama would ever lie about anything just to get past an election because it would be eventually exposed... even though he did and it has been and foxy is still marching right along.

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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Fairly well, considering .... : You going out to celebrate New Years?
    No chance ... you?
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The regime knew prior to the video brew-ha-ha that an attack was possible.
    Yes, it happened to be September 11th every where in the world and there were threats against many American interests that day.

    They were derelict in taking the appropriate measures to protect American personell.
    Agreed, though given the fact it was a CIA location, I think we both understand now why.

    Four Americans died as result.
    Four Americans died because of the murderous actions of others.

    Then, they LIED about everything.

    That's a big ass lie...
    So I see this is the part where we simply ignore all facts, reason and logic in order to insist on our blind criticism of the black Democrat. Get back to me if you ever feel like discussing this in a non-partisan way. Otherwise, I'm done with dealing with such foolish comments. Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Forget it ap ... the foxy one decided long ago he's gonna believe who he wants to believe no matter how preposterous.
    The irony is thick within this statement.

    In order to make this statement, you have to ignore the monumental amount of facts and evidence we have which supports what I'm saying in order to cling to a narrative which doesn't make sense to any rational person. The only thing preposterous in this thread is the statement that what Nixon did was less than what happened under Obama and those who defend those making such preposterous statements.

    Now he's resorted to fantasies about the Obama team lying to protect our M.E. security apparatus
    What fantasies? We know Benghazi was a CIA hotspot. We have pretty good evidence we were running weapons into Syria from Libya. What fantasies are you accusing me of, unless you have become so politically blinded as to think facts and logic are now fantasy?

    and that it's silly to suspect Obama would ever lie about anything just to get past an election because it would be eventually exposed
    Because that's an asinine belief. Obama has been FAR more damaged politically by the video than he would have been if he had simply said we were attacked. To believe Obama lied about this to win an election is the height of fantasy. Look how much damage Obama took over the Benghazi video thing (which the NYT is now reporting to be partly true after all)...if that damage would have come out a month earlier, Romney would be President.

    Only a fool would think Obama lied to protect his presidency, when the lie he's accused of telling would have done so much more harm to his re-election chances. It never ceases to amaze me the ridiculous lengths some people will go to hold on to such asinine beliefs.

    foxy is still marching right along.
    I march along to the beat of facts and truth, not some mindless droning regurgitated from watching/listening to conservative media. It's a shame there aren't more people in this thread like me and fewer people like...well, others.
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I guess reading the whole thread would just be too much for you to handle?
    Yeah it would be and WHY, especially when they are boring and have nothing to say and are hundreds to over a thousand post in a thread. Try and read a thousand posts in a thread before you post up, I would suggest it would be to much for you to handle.
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Four Americans died because of the murderous actions of others.
    Why do we have a military? Why is it in the Constitution we have a Basis for Defense?
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Mr. Abu Khattala was a jihadist, if not actual AQ.
    Mr. Abu Khattala joined a column of as many as 200 pickup trucks mounted with artillery as they drove through downtown Benghazi under the black flags of militant Islam
    ignoring the Islamic militias:
    The C.I.A. kept its closest watch on people who had known ties to terrorist networks abroad, especially those connected to Al Qaeda
    thinking the 'close ties' with the militas was some kind of a warning. The CIA annex was supposed to provide security..(?) what happened there?

    McFarland was getting contradictory wqrnings from the militias...still relience on those for "warnings"
    Bengazi had been the target of British consulates..again no real security, as Steven wrote in his diary..
    They were hung out to dry, there was no follow up on security.

    This is what happened when Obama destroyed the Libyan gov't -milita rule- ( which is really mob rule), no folowing up on security from DC, no
    real desire to dig any deeper, content to let them stay in a well known hot spot.
    Libyan militia leaders who might have intervened to help the Americans washed their hands of the attack.

    (Rogers)This was a preplanned, organized terrorist event,” he said, “not a video. That whole part was debunked time and time again.”
    But the Republican arguments appear to conflate purely local extremist organizations like Ansar al-Shariah with Al Qaeda’s international terrorist network
    it was both, it wasn't just the video as Rice tried to blame it, it wasn't AQ as the Republicans tried to sell it.

    It wss incompetence, and the result of relying on Islamic milita grouips for early warning and protection.

    FUBAR, as the phrase goes...such is the fruit of our "liberation " of Libya.
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    oh yeah. and before this sinks down into thread oblivion, recall the article did mention "pre-planning',but the main idea transcends Bengazi.

    Libya is a terrorist state.
    Al Qaeda was having its own problems penetrating the Libyan chaos
    More than a year later, the group appears more successful. People briefed on American intelligence say the regional affiliate has established a presence in Derna
    American teacher shot dead in Libya's Benghazi
    The detentions followed the U.S. announcement last month that it was stepping up military support for Libya's fledgling security forces, which have been overwhelmed by militia violence and unrest since the overthrow of dictator Moammar Gadhafi in 2011.

    Popular sentiment against the various militias has been mounting for months in Tripoli and other parts of the country, including the eastern city of Benghazi, where increasing violence has included assassinations
    Libya says U.S. military personnel drove off from checkpoint - CNN.com

    Al Qaeda's senior leadership (AQSL) has "issued strategic guidance to followers in Libya and elsewhere to take advantage of the Libyan rebellion," the report reads. AQSL ordered its followers to "gather weapons," "establish training camps," "build a network in secret," "establish an Islamic state," and "institute sharia" law in Libya.

    Abu Anas al Libi was identified as the key liaison between AQSL and others inside Libya who were working for al Qaeda. "Reporting indicates that intense communications from AQSL are conducted through Abu Anas al Libi, who is believed to be an intermediary between [Ayman al] Zawahiri and jihadists in Libya," the report notes
    Read more: 'Core' al Qaeda member captured in Libya - The Long War Journal

    etc. etc. etc....
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    Re: Susan Rice defends Benghazi interviews on 60 Minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    monumental amount of facts and evidence we have which supports what I'm saying
    Monumental facts and evidence that the Obama team wasn't lying about Benghazi? There's the fantasy I was talking about.
    what Nixon did was less than what happened under Obama and those who defend those making such preposterous statements.
    Maybe the poster was thinking that an Ambassador & a rescue team didn't die because of Nixon's lie.
    What fantasies? We know Benghazi was a CIA hotspot. We have pretty good evidence we were running weapons into Syria from Libya. What fantasies are you accusing me of
    You're quite right ... we did know that ... right when it happened ... yet Obama lied about it ... and to this day I betcha most people still don't know about that Consulate ... so what does that tell you about the shelf-life of Obama's lies?
    Because that's an asinine belief. Obama has been FAR more damaged politically by the video than he would have been if he had simply said we were attacked. To believe Obama lied about this to win an election is the height of fantasy. Look how much damage Obama took over the Benghazi video thing (which the NYT is now reporting to be partly true after all)...
    if that damage would have come out a month earlier, Romney would be President
    I just addressed this ... he only needed to get past November. Another example of his success rate on lying. Why wasn't he telling the truth about the impact of Obamacare before the election? He knew what it would be. He was even specifically asked about people losing their insurance. How come it wasn't plastered all over the news ... before the election? And yes ... if it came out before the election Romney would have had a better shot. But you learned the wrong lesson from the whole thing.

    Only a fool would think Obama lied to protect his presidency, when the lie he's accused of telling would have done so much more harm to his re-election chances.
    Already addressed. You think because he didn't get caught soon enough means he didn't lie. Downright silly.
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