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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

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    You wouldn't get it anyway, so why waste the time?
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

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    The problem is these shows exist but they're considered "ground breaking". I remember when The Wire came out. It was shocking to show inner city youths and what they actually go through. I admit, I loved that show as well as Oz. They both seemed like honest portrayals of issues which the black community actually deals with (high incarceration rates, drug use, violence) and portrayed characters as humans with flaws. Essentially, HBO succeeded where BET, MTV, ABC, NBC and many other failed. They gave a realistic account of life in black communities and gave portrayals of real black people. That's where I think the "left wing media" failed blacks. They keep painting us as all being successful and all being level headed, when as a community we are most certainly not.

    Don't get me wrong, I definitely understand the thought behind all those positive black family images. However, all they've done is create a serious disconnect between who blacks perceive they are and the communities so many of us live in. I also stress that they are not representative of blacks in general and that's what is needed. We need accurate representations of black environments modern and past.

    I think the Barbershop movie almost started down that path. They gave an environment which as a youth I experienced "the black barbershop". Then, they made it into one long joke. Another movie which kind of touched on a similar path was American Gangster. Putting aside all the obvious fabrications, it gave an accurate account of violent black gangsterism in the US during the 70s. Again, this is because the film makers made an effort to show it without falling into the traps of the "redeemed gangster" or the "gangster with the heart of gold" that so many filmmakers fall into.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem is these shows exist but they're considered "ground breaking". I remember when The Wire came out. It was shocking to show inner city youths and what they actually go through. I admit, I loved that show as well as Oz. They both seemed like honest portrayals of issues which the black community actually deals with (high incarceration rates, drug use, violence) and portrayed characters as humans with flaws. Essentially, HBO succeeded where BET, MTV, ABC, NBC and many other failed. They gave a realistic account of life in black communities and gave portrayals of real black people. That's where I think the "left wing media" failed blacks. They keep painting us as all being successful and all being level headed, when as a community we are most certainly not.

    Don't get me wrong, I definitely understand the thought behind all those positive black family images. However, all they've done is create a serious disconnect between who blacks perceive they are and the communities so many of us live in. I also stress that they are not representative of blacks in general and that's what is needed. We need accurate representations of black environments modern and past.

    I think the Barbershop movie almost started down that path. They gave an environment which as a youth I experienced "the black barbershop". Then, they made it into one long joke. Another movie which kind of touched on a similar path was American Gangster. Putting aside all the obvious fabrications, it gave an accurate account of violent black gangsterism in the US during the 70s. Again, this is because the film makers made an effort to show it without falling into the traps of the "redeemed gangster" or the "gangster with the heart of gold" that so many filmmakers fall into.
    The wire, OZ, or any other TV show that you think shows what inner city youths go through is complete bull****. They are all cheap bull**** designed to show middle and upper class America what they want to believe it is like. Go hang out in an inner city, or spend some time in prison. While these shows were entertaining they were far from accurate.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The wire, OZ, or any other TV show that you think shows what inner city youths go through is complete bull****. They are all cheap bull**** designed to show middle and upper class America what they want to believe it is like. Go hang out in an inner city, or spend some time in prison. While these shows were entertaining they were far from accurate.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Just cause you say so don't make it so.
    You could look it up, go to an inner city or a prison. Just because HBO says its real doesnt make it so either. Its a bunch of overdramatised drama glorifying certain lifestyles. Again go to an inner city rather than relying on fictional tv to decide what its like.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You could look it up, go to an inner city or a prison. Just because HBO says its real doesnt make it so either. Its a bunch of overdramatised drama glorifying certain lifestyles. Again go to an inner city rather than relying on fictional tv to decide what its like.

    What, and blow his whole narrative on why his own white guilt is in the way of him looking at things honestly? Good luck.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You could look it up, go to an inner city or a prison. Just because HBO says its real doesnt make it so either. Its a bunch of overdramatised drama glorifying certain lifestyles. Again go to an inner city rather than relying on fictional tv to decide what its like.
    Glorifying? You're from the same group of people who think any depiction of things you don't like is validating it. Lolz. If you think showing the very real high crime, homophobia, corruption, violence, etc in the black community/jail is glorifying any of it, you need to get back on this planet. What's next? Schindler's List was a glorification of Germans during WWII?
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Glorifying? You're from the same group of people who think any depiction of things you don't like is validating it. Lolz.
    Or maybe he just doesn't like falsehoods being spread by people about others in order to smear them.
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    Re: Woman fired for Aids Africa tweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Or maybe he just doesn't like falsehoods being spread by people about others in order to smear them.
    So what you're saying is that is that:

    1. There is no outrageously high violent crime rates in inner cities and these shows make it up.
    2. There is no high corruption in inner cities and these shows make it up.
    3. There aren't extremely complicated relationships based on everything from crime, corruption, drug use, love feuds going on in jail?

    Yep. You've definitely jumped off the deep end on this one.
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