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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Their concern is for their entire brand. If the network didn't suspend him, that is tacit endorsement of his comments and could cause a loss of overall viewership, to programs unrelated to Duck Dynasty. The loss of viewers to that show, would be limited since they have an audience and viewers will still tune in.

Again, none of this would be an issue if not for Phil.
His suspension has already shown a great loss of viewership and an outpouring of support.
What remains to be seen is if this continues.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

It's a clever schtick. Hats off to him

He looks great as a one-headlighted tow truck
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Who said all? We are discussing Phil Robertson here. But it isn't uncommon knowledge that married households make more money in general then unmarried households, and an intact family of any income strata is better off than one that isn't.

The whole absurd idea of marrying only after you have discovered yourself is in part leading to the instability of marriage, and certainly hasn't helped with the rise of single parent households:

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Also, sorry, I should have been more clear: I am speaking to you from Earth. I sometimes forget you aren't from around here.



I don't think it is healthy, no. For one I think you would be getting into ephebophilia territory, but also raising children is a job for the young and vibrant. You need to be able to chase your gleefully laughing child around the house. Old men marrying young women lead to even older men raising children. Nothing about such a union would be as it should be.



Yes I do, since Phil and his wife met when they were teenagers and that is what he was talking about.

You are simply engaging in projection here it seems.
He was lecturing about the benefits of marrying 15 and 16 year old girls, as opposed to 20 year old one, to a room full of middle aged men. Somehow, I don't see that applying to teenagers marrying each other.

But, keep spinning that broken record, Baby. I love seeing religious types lie their asses off to promote their pet causes and defend their degenerate heroes.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Their concern is for their entire brand. If the network didn't suspend him, that is tacit endorsement of his comments and could cause a loss of overall viewership, to programs unrelated to Duck Dynasty. The loss of viewers to that show, would be limited since they have an audience and viewers will still tune in.

Again, none of this would be an issue if not for Phil.

Endorsement of his comments happens like this, and only like this, "we endorse what he said in so-and-so interview or speech." Or if they want to make sure, they say, "we do not endorse what he said in so-and-so interview or speech." And then because of that, doing the following of also suspending him and removing him from the show, and from the show next season. Because if they pretend they are against his views, but continue to make money because of him, knowingly and on purpose, they are hypocrites and completely full of it.

This is completely different from suspending him and then keeping him in the show, planning to show the next season with him in it, and running not one but so far two DD marathons since it happened.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Who said all? We are discussing Phil Robertson here. But it isn't uncommon knowledge that married households make more money in general then unmarried households, and an intact family of any income strata is better off than one that isn't.

The whole absurd idea of marrying only after you have discovered yourself is in part leading to the instability of marriage, and certainly hasn't helped with the rise of single parent households:

View attachment 67158986

Also, sorry, I should have been more clear: I am speaking to you from Earth. I sometimes forget you aren't from around here.



I don't think it is healthy, no. For one I think you would be getting into ephebophilia territory, but also raising children is a job for the young and vibrant. You need to be able to chase your gleefully laughing child around the house. Old men marrying young women lead to even older men raising children. Nothing about such a union would be as it should be.



Yes I do, since Phil and his wife met when they were teenagers and that is what he was talking about.

You are simply engaging in projection here it seems.

Maybe she doesn't know that Phil wasn't always an old man with a beard.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E has had more negative backlash to their decision than positive. Glaad has had much too.

Do you honestly think A&E is not going to reverse itself on this like the Cracker Barrel did??


They probably will. But as I just said, if they hadn't suspended him, the network is tacitly endorsing his comments. They acted prudently to try to limit the damage to their overall brand.

MSNBC jettisoned Martin Bahir and Alec Baldwin over their comments to protect their brand.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

your are free to have the factually proven false opinion but facts and links prove your statements 100% wrong.
By all means though if you disagree simply feel free to post any facts or links that make your two false statements true, we'd love to read them.
Wrong.
They being categorized as sin is not what the uproar is about.
There was no direct equation between the behaviors.

Which is not something I need to keep pointing out.

So either be honest enough to admit that, or push on.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Maybe she doesn't know that Phil wasn't always an old man with a beard.

I just assumed that she couldn't tell that Miss Kay is older than 15.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I just assumed that she couldn't tell that Miss Kay is older than 15.

Well women do age faster than men.

I don't know what the argument is about anyway.

The human race is pretty much doomed in the US.

If people don't start marrying and having kids earlier, there will be more and more babies with birth defects and that will become the norm.

Society cannot change human biology and humans need to have the babies early in life to raise them correctly.

Waiting until the 30s or 40s is counter productive to the survival of the race.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

They probably will. But as I just said, if they hadn't suspended him, the network is tacitly endorsing his comments. They acted prudently to try to limit the damage to their overall brand.
I understand your point.
Had they just issued a statement (which should be fine in this world) then Glaad would have carried through with what ever they threatened them with.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

He explained what he SAW. How can 50 years change what he SAW.

Is this a hard concept for you. Think back to when you were 8, did you see everything for how it was or how you understood it?

You can't take away his memories from him nor can you call him a liar for what he remembers.

He shopuld have had his eyes checked
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

His suspension has already shown a great loss of viewership and an outpouring of support.
What remains to be seen is if this continues.

A great loss of viewers of THAT show. A great outpouring of viewers of THAT show. Maybe they are the DD network and and they did damage to their overall brand? It does remain to be seen.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

1.)Wrong.
2.)They being categorized as sin is not what the uproar is about.
3.) There was no direct equation between the behaviors.
4.) Which is not something I need to keep pointing out.
5.) So either be honest enough to admit that, or push on.

translation: you have no facts or links that make your already proven wrong statements true.

1.) again facts and a link prove you wrong
2.) never said it was nor did my accurate statement nor did your factually wrong statement
3.) see #2
4.) correct because again it changes nothing my statement was still accurate and your two statements were both 100% factually wrong as proven by facts and links
5.) nothing to admit
remember this conversation is about your two false statements which are about the topic, nothing else. There was nothing wrong with my statement. Your two statements have been proven factually wrong. He did in fact make a comparison and equate them. This will never change.

the mistakes were yours when you made blind assumptions.

By all means though if you disagree simply feel free to post any facts or links that make your two false statements true, we'd love to read them. You either have facts to support your false statements or you dont. Id gladly discuss it or you can simply admit your statements were wrong and you misspoke.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

He shopuld have had his eyes checked

Yes 8 years olds are known for understand all the sociopolitical situations going on around them.

Good for you for pointing that out.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A great loss of viewers of THAT show. A great outpouring of viewers of THAT show. Maybe they are the DD network and and they did damage to their overall brand? It does remain to be seen.

yep or they are happier with less ratings and a better image in their view. Like i said only A&E can make that decision.

I personally wouldnt sell out
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A great loss of viewers of THAT show.
A 71% drop.

According to the latest television ratings numbers, “Duck Dynasty,” which held the top spot on cable television’s list with 8.885 million viewers in weeks prior, dropped to only 2.521 million viewers overnight. That’s a 71.6% decrease, enough to prove to A&E that their decision will have serious implications on their viewership.
'Duck Dynasty' Ratings Plummet After A&E Boycott - Wide Open Spaces

While I am sure it is temporary, it was a great loss.


A great outpouring of viewers of THAT show.
Yes.
Websites, Facebook pages, and petitions.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

translation: you have no facts or links that make your already proven wrong statements true.

1.) again facts and a link prove you wrong
2.) never said it was nor did my accurate statement nor did your factually wrong statement
3.) see #2
4.) correct because again it changes nothing my statement was still accurate and your two statements were both 100% factually wrong as proven by facts and links
5.) nothing to admit
remember this conversation is about your two false statements which are about the topic, nothing else. There was nothing wrong with my statement. Your two statements have been proven factually wrong. He did in fact make a comparison and equate them. This will never change.

the mistakes were yours when you made blind assumptions.

By all means though if you disagree simply feel free to post any facts or links that make your two false statements true, we'd love to read them. You either have facts to support your false statements or you dont. Id gladly discuss it or you can simply admit your statements were wrong and you misspoke.

Stop with your silly game J. It is the only reason you are here.
The facts show - you are wrong and doing nothing more than playing your silly little dishonest game.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

He was lecturing about the benefits of marrying 15 and 16 year old girls,.

On this business of the benefits of marrying 15 and 16 year-old girls,
the Evangelicals and Mormons would seem to have some common ground..

Now can the Evangelicals make that leap to Polygamy, or just stay home as with Romney ?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

He was lecturing about the benefits of marrying 15 and 16 year old girls, as opposed to 20 year old one, to a room full of middle aged men. Somehow, I don't see that applying to teenagers marrying each other.

You are sadly showing your ignorance once again.

Video Here of the statement in context

The advice he was giving in that passage was to a young man he met, not to the audience. Stop being an idiot.

But, keep spinning that broken record, Baby. I love seeing religious types lie their asses off to promote their pet causes and defend their degenerate heroes.

Add "lie" to the long list of words that Calamity doesn't understand. You are the one spinning.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

According to the latest television ratings numbers, “Duck Dynasty,” which held the top spot on cable television’s list with 8.885 million viewers in weeks prior, dropped to only 2.521 million viewers overnight. That’s a 71.6% decrease, enough to prove to A&E that their decision will have serious implications on their viewership.
'Duck Dynasty' Ratings Plummet After A&E Boycott - Wide Open Spaces

While I am sure it is temporary, it was a great loss.


.

Why assume it is A&Es fault and not the stupid stuff ducky man said?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A 71% drop.

According to the latest television ratings numbers, “Duck Dynasty,” which held the top spot on cable television’s list with 8.885 million viewers in weeks prior, dropped to only 2.521 million viewers overnight. That’s a 71.6% decrease, enough to prove to A&E that their decision will have serious implications on their viewership.
'Duck Dynasty' Ratings Plummet After A&E Boycott - Wide Open Spaces

While I am sure it is temporary, it was a great loss.


Yes.
Websites, Facebook pages, and petitions.

It is Christmas week, who watches their normal TV during that week?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Why assume it is A&Es fault and not the stupid stuff ducky man said?
Because of the backlash against what they did.
Even Glaad felt the backlash.

Secondly, what he said, the behavior being a sin, is not controversial.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

It is Christmas week, who watches their normal TV during that week?

Then you should be able to find and show a similar viewership drop around each time every year.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

1.)Stop with your silly game J. It is the only reason you are here.
2.)The facts show - you are wrong and doing nothing more than playing your silly little dishonest game.
translation: you STILL have no facts or links that make your already proven wrong statements true.

1.) no game, please stay on topic.
you attacked my factually accurate statements about the topic and called it wrong which they have been proven true, Then made two proven wrong statements. I asked you if you disagree to please provide any facts and links that support you like i did. You keep dodging that request because you know your two statements were factually wrong.

2.) what facts? you havent provided any, not one, i gave facts and links that prove your statements wrong, if you disagree simply provide facts the prove your statments true and stop deflecting and trying to make the topic about me, im not the topic.

facts destroy your post and statements again

your two false statements:
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

Facts links and the definitions of the word comparison and equate all prove your statements factually wrong. He 100% did compare them and equate them.

As always please stay on topic, remain civil and simply address the issue, provide your FACTS now or admit both your statements are factually wrong.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Then you should be able to find and show a similar viewership drop around each time every year.

I don't know, but I got a Chromecast for Christmas and I've been playing with that for a few days. :2razz:
 
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