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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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I don't think so. Jesus came and brought a completely different message. That's why the Old Testament is separate from the New.

Yeah! That's it! :lamo
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Where Phil grew up, there were no theaters with balconies. Out in the country, there were no water fointains, or public toilets and the nearest resurant was too far to walk to and people--white and black--didn't have money to spare to eat at a resturant, anyway. It's probable that Robertson didn't see any of that.

Yep, because TV, newspapers, and newsreels did not exist. Jim Crow, lynchings, and the Klan were never discussed, or even acknowledged in the deep south when he was coming up . . . and apparently, all the way up to this very day by many.
 
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I'm saying his perspective may be different than your's. Did you grow up in the south, or are you going by what you've been told?

No, calamity is so obviously going by infusing her own preconceived biases, and stereotypes into Phil's answers because "she just knows" what is in his heart without ever meeting the man, let alone getting to know him. She takes an article written by a columnist that was out to give Phil Robertson an unflattering interview portrayal....

Her perspective of him can be nothing other, because deep down, and at the surface she despises anyone that thinks, of believes differently than her own settled mind about Christianity, the political right, gun owners, etc....Her mind is made up of what she agrees with, and when the holes in logic, or knowledge appear, she just fills them with her own speculation. Truth be damned.
 
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Speaking of how some Christians like Phil selectively choose their poutrage...
It has already been explained to you. That is not being done.
So stop with the faux outrage when you already know.


Actually, if you look at all the Quotes from Jesus, he never mentions Homosexuality, but he sure does talk a lot about loving your neighbors: friends, enemies and sinners alike; and of helping the poor. I wonder why Phil and so few Christians here on DP focus on that part of following Christ? Maybe you guys are actually rejecting Christ and instead are all following Satan.

It wouldn't surprise me. Christ is love. What Phil rambled on about was not love; it was hate. I see a lot of hate directed at Gays from supposed Christians here in DP.
He was speaking about what was sin. That is not speaking hate.
You might want to learn the difference.
 
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Yep, because TV, newspapers, and newsreels did not exist. Jim Crow, lynchings, and the Klan were never discussed, or even acknowledged in the deep south when he was coming up . . . and apparently, all the way up to this very day by many.

I can honestly say that I have never personally seen anyone hit by lightning, bitten by a shark, abducted by a UFO or placed in a gas chamber because they were Jewish but I do not deny that has occurred. Hearing something discussed, or seeing a recording of it occurring elsewhere, is not to say that one is lying in stating that they never personally saw it happen.
 
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“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," Robertson is quoted in GQ. "Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

No....Im sorry. You CANNOT "accidentally" mistake those words. And if you are being honest you will admit that most people that made their comments about that paragraph did so without ever once actually READING it.

Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Do you understand what "freedom of speech" actually means? Hint: It does not mean that groups like GLAAD aren't allowed to criticize you.

Apparently gay/lesbians are supposed to just shut up and take discrimination and nasty speech against them. But religious people, "pro" family organizations, NOM are free to say what they want, boycott who they want, sue who they want as long as they are anti-gay.
 
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. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.

At least the good folks among us do.
 
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I can honestly say that I have never personally seen anyone hit by lightning, bitten by a shark, abducted by a UFO or placed in a gas chamber because they were Jewish but I do not deny that has occurred. Hearing something discussed, or seeing a recording of it occurring elsewhere, is not to say that one is lying in stating that they never personally saw it happen.
I've been hit by lightning and survived. I've seen someone almost hit by lightning, black scorch mark right next to his foot where it hit. You believe in ufo's? Does Santa ride on them?
 
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Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
Stop brushing with a broad brush.
He was speaking about his own personal experience, which should not offend anyone.
 
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Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.

We saved them from a worse fate if they had remained in Africa and eaten there.
 
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Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
No...he didnt. He said he never witnessed in his area mistreatment of blacks and that blacks were hard working, industrious, and (gasp) Godly. He described blacks and whites working together. He said nothing about the civil rights movement. His comment addresses entitlements and welfare and the counter to entitlements and welfare...hard work.

You...Boo...you have now been joined by Jessie Jackson in your blind stupidity. Sounds like a perfect fit.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I posted this before, and I can't remember on which thread, but it bears repeating ...

I found the strangest thing about that comment by Robertson was that he claimed black people in Louisiana weren't "singing the blues" when it was black people in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana who invented the blues.
 
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I've been hit by lightning and survived. I've seen someone almost hit by lightning, black scorch mark right next to his foot where it hit. You believe in ufo's? Does Santa ride on them?

Yes, if I can't identify a flying object then it is, by definition, a UFO. If I saw santa riding on a flying object then it would not be unidentified. However, you do see the distinction between someone reporting not having personally seen something and asserting that means that they believe it does not exist.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I posted this before, and I can't remember on which thread, but it bears repeating ...

I found the strangest thing about that comment by Robertson was that he claimed black people in Louisiana weren't "singing the blues" when it was black people in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana who invented the blues.
Why do you find that strange?
Are the songs you consider blues, the same as what he thought were the blues and never heard?
What was that? You don't know?
Go figure.

Or do you know if they never sang the blues because he just happened to be around happy folks?
Do you know?
 
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Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.

No he didn't say "black people" as you frame it, as in 'all black people'...He was speaking of the black people he knew as a young man joining them in the cotton fields, working along side them...So instead of being so aghast, and feigning such contempt for something that wasn't implied, and stop making crap up, you'd be taken a little more seriously....As of now, all I see you doing is ignoring rational, likely points, and making stuff up out of whole cloth to smear the guy...
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I posted this before, and I can't remember on which thread, but it bears repeating ...

I found the strangest thing about that comment by Robertson was that he claimed black people in Louisiana weren't "singing the blues" when it was black people in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana who invented the blues.

Yeah ok, it was rather simple in the other post, and still is...
 
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Why do you find that strange?
Are the songs you consider blues, the same as what he thought were the blues and never heard?
What was that? You don't know?
Go figure.

Or do you know if they never sang the blues because he just happened to be around happy folks?
Do you know?

"The blues" is a pretty well-defined musical genre. I'm not saying my observation in this case has any deep meaning other than the somewhat ironic phrasing he used.
 
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"The blues" is a pretty well-defined musical genre. I'm not saying my observation in this case has any deep meaning other than the somewhat ironic phrasing he used.
Show he knows what that specific genre encompasses.

And frankly, in April of 54 he was 8 years old.
Give his personal recollection a break.

Elvis may have heard the blues being sung 12 years earlier at that age, but I doubt Phil did, or if Phil did, knew what he was hearing.
 
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re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

"The blues" is a pretty well-defined musical genre. I'm not saying my observation in this case has any deep meaning other than the somewhat ironic phrasing he used.

Indeed. The blues were born in the Mississippi Delta. W.C. Handy.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Yeah! That's it! :lamo

You must not know the NT very well if you think it simply reinforces what was written in the OT.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

You must not know the NT very well if you think it simply reinforces what was written in the OT.

And your theological background to be the final word in interpretation is?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Show he knows that specific genre encompasses.

And frankly, in April of 54 he was 8 years old.
Give his personal recollection a break.

Elvis may have heard the blues being sung 12 years earlier at that age, but I doubt Phil did, or if Phil did, knew what he was hearing.

You're reading way too much into my statement. Relax.
 
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......and especially considering how He railed against the Pharisees like He did.

IMO, when He said "Believe in ME and you shall be saved", He didn't mean "follow anybody BUT me", which is what these modern day Pharisees are doing. They follow the preacher man telling them what to believe. They follow Paul. They follow the Pharisees. They follow the hatred in their own hearts which requires them to persecute a small group of people in order to feel better about themselves. They don't follow Jesus, and in fact, they have so little respect for Him that they think He was too incompetent to know what was important.

If the persecution of gay people was so important, Jesus would have said so. To think otherwise shows such incredible arrogance and is so dismissive of the one they claim to follow as to be the work of a source quite different than the one they think they follow.

Open up the N.T. and read the red letters. That's all they need to do, and only when people start following HIM can they say they are His representative.
That's the hard cold truth. Following Christ is not what many modern Christians are doing; they're following something completely different. The proof is in these 50 versus.
What Does the Bible Say About Loving Each Other?

How few people really follow these lessons from Christ on brotherly love? And, many of our American Christians follow none of them.
 
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