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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Yes, they were happier being discriminated against. And you see nothing insulting about that. Incredible.

I grew up in Georgia btw.

We're happier now with higher divorce rate, muder rate, unemployment rate, more welfare dependency? And according to the Libbos, black folks are still discriminated against as much as ever.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

You can't explain… :roll:

I think you're just doing what you constantly accuse libbos of doing…. seeing racism everywhere. :lol:

It's obviously a waste of time.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

It's obviously a waste of time.

You obviously can't explain, and you see racism where there is none. lol
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I believe the outcry from the conservatives on this issue is oriented in a sudden public shift in opinion on the acceptance of homosexuality. And not just the lack of condemnation but the political movement towards SSM. I often hear about Gay activists pushing an agenda, which is probably true to some degree and this unsettles the traditionalists.

I live in the south and hear my redneck acquaintances saying "it's too much Gay, too fast". I've often preached in the forums for the pro LGBT supporters to slow their roll or there will be a social divide and organized blowback. Especially with the PC control over speech. Let people have the time to adjust and freedom to vocally resist, so that a happy middle can be achieved.

The Cracker Barrel has already gotten such a massive negative response that they put Phil's items back on the shelves.

Hating or preaching against homosexuality is not going to make it go away. It's been around since before biblical times. And trying to force others to accept your orientation on every level is not a realistic goal. Honey catches more flies and killing with kindness eventually works.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I agree with you (sorta), but why is the response always "where was the outrage"? Is one instance of a "wrong" any less a "wrong" because another "wrong" occurred?

You are presuming that the firing of Bashir, Halperin, Baldwin, Olbermann, etc., were "wrong". I do not presume that. Those individuals used their freedom of speech to spout outrageous insults against other individuals and/or ideologies, and their employers had every right to sever their employment as a consequence. I see the Robertson issue the same way. He had every right to bash whomever he wished, and his employer had every right to issue consequences for him doing so.

You seem to think receiving consequences for one's actions is wrong; I do not.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

In that case they are confused about who the viewers are for this show.

They're pretty pragmatic folks. Their thinking is based on expensive market research that tells them to cut their losses with that jackass. It's not just that one show they're considering, I'm guessing.
Like I said, viewers aren't customers, they're product. A&E obviously thinks that their production would suffer if they gave a voice to a homophobic fundamentalist Christian. Who can say they're obliged to give the fundy a microphone?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

LOL. Most of you people never knew his name until last week. Hell, I didn't.

It might surprise you, but I like duck. I've watched it for sometime now. I wished Phil (and I did know his name, their names)...had been a bit more prudent in his words. I've seen some controversial stuff come of YouTube for months.

Oh well...it's his life.

Merry Xmas to you and your's Mac...
 
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You saying this after being provided the information that explains the difference is ... well, quite absurd.
It just shows that you do not care about the truth.

What's absurd is saying gay sex is a sin but eating rock lobster is wink-wink not a problem.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Wow! Bigotry on parade!

Shewolf said:
I saw a few minutes of Duck Dynasty recently, and OMG… it was stupid. I don't get the show. They are just white, southern, rednecks. I guess we are supposed to laugh at how stupid and childless those guys are or something…

I just know that they are blown out of proportion. I am tired of seeing Duck Dynasty chi pets, towels, t shirts, Christmas albums, etc.

If this family makes the decision to quit, because one of them got suspended, then that is their decision.

Apdst, I've only seen a couple episodes of duck dynasty. Pls. let me know what of Shewolf's comments were inaccurate; from the two shows I saw, she described it accurately.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

You just proved my point, Jane. You are simply ignorant when it comes to faith.

Perhaps when you hit rock bottom at some point in your life, you too will see the light.
Maybe I have. But my light simply is not the same as yours. My god doesn't care about gender if two consenting adults love each other. My god maybe cares though about people who hoard their riches and say nasty things about the meek.
 
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We're happier now with higher divorce rate, muder rate, unemployment rate, more welfare dependency? And according to the Libbos, black folks are still discriminated against as much as ever.


Seriously? you haven't noticed, oh, that black people can now vote? That Oprah is one of the richest people in the world? that, while discrimination still happens, black people are scientists, CEOs, athletes, politicians -and, gasp - even President of the United States? you really think they were happier in the 40s/50s when they had no hope but field jobs, house jobs, and what not?

SERIOUSLY???
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I dont see the warnings of the Bible the way that many do. I certainly recognize it as text for a more primitive people that has had room to evolve. Even with that, while many see and accept only condemnation, I see as warning and guidance from a loving father.

Now...with regard to shellfish and pork...we certainly have modern health standards that would appear to have protected people that would otherwise have died or at the very least become very ill had the foods not been properly prepared. Conversely, "It is estimated that nearly 1 million individuals are currently infected with HIV in the country, and the number appears to be increasing each year. From the mid-1980s on, AIDS had a pivotal role in the rollback of Sexual Revolution habits in the big cities of the United States. Male to male sexual contact accounted for about half of new cases, and intravenous drug use contributed about a fifth of cases. The cumulative number of deaths in the U.S. due to causes related to AIDS is estimated to be more than 650,000. There are about 50,000 new cases of HIV in the US every year."

And to ME...just with my belief system...THAT is why it was given in scripture. Not as a condemnation but as a warning. And THAT is why the concern over homosexuality is still a relevant concern and the diversions over hair length and shellfish is a pathetic attempt to divert from reality. But again...thats just me.
I have no argument with this. Maybe, the god part has me saying instead that the bible is a collection of stories written from experience. Gay sex and eating shellfish probably got you killed back then.

...gay sex probably still does, especially if you aren't careful.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I believe the outcry from the conservatives on this issue is oriented in a sudden public shift in opinion on the acceptance of homosexuality. And not just the lack of condemnation but the political movement towards SSM. I often hear about Gay activists pushing an agenda, which is probably true to some degree and this unsettles the traditionalists.

I live in the south and hear my redneck acquaintances saying "it's too much Gay, too fast". I've often preached in the forums for the pro LGBT supporters to slow their roll or there will be a social divide and organized blowback. Especially with the PC control over speech. Let people have the time to adjust and freedom to vocally resist, so that a happy middle can be achieved.

The Cracker Barrel has already gotten such a massive negative response that they put Phil's items back on the shelves.

Hating or preaching against homosexuality is not going to make it go away. It's been around since before biblical times. And trying to force others to accept your orientation on every level is not a realistic goal. Honey catches more flies and killing with kindness eventually works.

Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.


That's a big :failpail:

If it's unlawful hate speech, then someone can bring charges against him otherwise it's "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution.
 
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We're happier now with higher divorce rate, muder rate, unemployment rate, more welfare dependency? And according to the Libbos, black folks are still discriminated against as much as ever.

So, we should go back to discrimination and all will be well? Incredible.

And no serious person says as much as ever, exaggeration doesn't help you here
 
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So, we should go back to discrimination and all will be well? Incredible.

And no serious person says as much as ever, exaggeration doesn't help you here

That's not true and you know it.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.

Won't be tolerated by who?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

That's not true and you know it.

Not sure what you're calling not true.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

That sentence is projection....Textbook.

It is projection on your part to say that he is projecting. Projection is primarily a conservative tactic.
If a conservative accuses anyone of doing something bad, it is a safe bet that is exactly what the conservative is doing.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

What's absurd is saying gay sex is a sin but eating rock lobster is wink-wink not a problem.
:naughty
No.
What is absurd is your reply.
You have already been given the information explaining that the two are not even on the same playing field.
Yet here you are again trying to equate them as being similar proscriptions when they are not. :doh
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Does he believe and/or do these things too?
Matthew 11:19
11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21
1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 23:1
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Mark 7:25-27
10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, 11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; 12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare [2] her nails; 13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house...

You got a point? We've been waiting for one from you the entire thread.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Maybe I have. But my light simply is not the same as yours. My god doesn't care about gender if two consenting adults love each other. My god maybe cares though about people who hoard their riches and say nasty things about the meek.

Only your selective interpretation, without logic of facts.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Maybe I have. But my light simply is not the same as yours. My god doesn't care about gender if two consenting adults love each other. My god maybe cares though about people who hoard their riches and say nasty things about the meek.
The meek shall inherit the Earth but,I seriously doubt they will be gay sinners.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

You are presuming that the firing of Bashir, Halperin, Baldwin, Olbermann, etc., were "wrong". I do not presume that. Those individuals used their freedom of speech to spout outrageous insults against other individuals and/or ideologies, and their employers had every right to sever their employment as a consequence. I see the Robertson issue the same way. He had every right to bash whomever he wished, and his employer had every right to issue consequences for him doing so.

You seem to think receiving consequences for one's actions is wrong; I do not.

But you seem to think that the outrage over one in the absence of another is a wrong....at leas that's what I gathered from your post. No-one defends all injustice equally....not even governments. There just isn't time.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

It might surprise you, but I like duck. I've watched it for sometime now. I wished Phil (and I did know his name, their names)...had been a bit more prudent in his words. I've seen some controversial stuff come of YouTube for months.

Oh well...it's his life.

And it makes sense to you that the hosts of a reality show aren't that much interested in airing the reality of the show?

Merry Xmas to you and your's Mac...

And to you, Merry Christmas.
 
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