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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Lovebug said:
That is true, but attacking one person in a particularly nasty way vs citing biblical scripture is not the same.
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He compared homosexuality to bestiality, then he went on to paraphrase a verse out of Romans. That verse doesn't mention bestiality. He added it.
 
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ocean515 said:
Some people hear what they want to hear, and others hear what was actually said. The challenge as I see it, is trying to defend the former, while ignoring the later.
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This is his quote:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he tells reporter Drew Magary. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson sounds off on gays, civil rights - latimes.com

His implication is clear as day. Start with homosexuality then it morphs into raping an animal. No decent person makes such a comparison. Moreover, he then goes on to paraphrase a verse as you say, but that verse never mentions bestiality. That is a comparison he made himself. You don't find that one in scripture.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
This is his quote:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he tells reporter Drew Magary. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson sounds off on gays, civil rights - latimes.com

His implication is clear as day. Start with homosexuality then it morphs into raping an animal. No decent person makes such a comparison. Moreover, he then goes on to paraphrase a verse as you say, but that verse never mentions bestiality. That is a comparison he made himself. You don't find that one in scripture.
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Just to clear up some definitions:

In Biblical usage, ‘fornication’ can mean any sexual congress outside monogamous marriage. It thus includes not only premarital sex, but also adultery, homosexual acts, incest, remarriage after un-Biblical divorce, and sexual acts with animals, all of which are explicitly forbidden in the law as given through Moses (Leviticus 20:10-21). Christ expanded the prohibition against adultery to include even sexual lusting (Matthew 5:28).”
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

SouthernDemocrat said:
This is his quote:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he tells reporter Drew Magary. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson sounds off on gays, civil rights - latimes.com

His implication is clear as day. Start with homosexuality then it morphs into raping an animal. No decent person makes such a comparison. Moreover, he then goes on to paraphrase a verse as you say, but that verse never mentions bestiality. That is a comparison he made himself. You don't find that one in scripture.
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It would help the credibility of the left if they didn't constantly manipulate the truth in their zeal to destroy those they are afraid of.

You've left out the question and context that preceeded the quote. So the question is, why? Why leave it out? Why make the bias and agenda so blatently clear by posting something so easily refuted?

So, the challenge remains for the left to explain this offensive.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Article said:
'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much

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before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as [highlight]gay rights and race relations[/highlight], according to a producer familiar with the situation.

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Interesting.
He said nothing about gay rights, or about race relations.

Yet someone thinks this is relevant enough to publish an article about it.
It seems that since the gay supporters twisted what he said and tried to say it was a comparison when it wasn't, they are now trying to cover their asses by saying he was warned, when what is said isn't even relevant to the supposed warning.




SouthernDemocrat said:
Read his quote, it cannot be reasonably construed any other way.
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Wrong, as you are misconstruing it.
He clearly was speaking about what was sinful in answer to a question. There was no comparison being made.


SouthernDemocrat said:
Most peopled don't follow up homosexuality with beastality.
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Really?
You do not know that, or how people like Phil answer questions as to what is sinful.
You are making a wild assumption to justify you absurd intolerance and outrage.
 
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ocean515 said:
It would help the credibility of the left if they didn't constantly manipulate the truth in their zeal to destroy those they are afraid of.

You've left out the question and context that preceeded the quote. So the question is, why? Why leave it out? Why make the bias and agenda so blatently clear by posting something so easily refuted?

So, the challenge remains for the left to explain this offensive.
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share with us what was got wrong
explain the context of his words and how that would change the meaning of what he said
i will be awaiting your reply with this insight
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

justabubba said:
now you can include among your cohort of supporters the westboro church, which has announced its intent to picket A&E. that should make you very proud of such an association
kind of like A&E being proud of its association with phil robertson
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I'll bet there are scum at Westboro that like Thomas Jefferson. Oh the humanity!
 
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Wow, now the Duck Dynasty is a RW voting block. Great.
apdst said:
You're suggesting he should have lied?

I think the issue could have been avoided if the interviewer hadn't set him up. He HAD to know how Robertsin was going to answer the question and if he did, he shouldn't have asked the question.

The Libbos might want to temper their outrage. The Duck Dynasty vote has already gotten one United States congressman elected. It would suck for the Libbos if every single member of theDuck block voted against a Democrat, because of the way the Libbos treated Phil Robertson.

Making a big deal out of this is a bad business decision for A&E and a bad political move for the Libbos.
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shrubnose said:
I totally agree that everyone has to be ready to take the consequences when they say things that a lot of people disagree with.
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or burn a flag, or ridicule a religion, or tell a lot of people that their way of life is crap (other than Christians of course, it's ok to ridicule Christians)....
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E has censored free speech. You should be just as incensed by that as you are about whatever he said. I'm sure if he had said "Homosexuality is cool in my book." and they had done what they did....all kinds of people would be demanding they be removed from the air.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Actually, A&E, like Liberalism itself, is censoring free thought. He didn't say it on A&E, nor did it have any connection to A&E.

All other stations issue disclaimers "He does not represent the views of this network." In this case though, those thoughts are not allowed by the liberal rulers.

Liberalism and the thought police will see a huge backlash from this.
 
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Lovebug said:
He said no such thing from what I read.
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"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."
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That is drawing a parallel between gay sex and beastiality.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
It got him a million or more fans, I really wasnt a fan of the show that much. Not really a hunter, but I hate it when a persons 1A rights and livelyhood are threatened by the very people that demand tolerance and understanding.
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This is not a First Amendment issue.
 
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paddymcdougall said:
I found Robertson's AND Bashir's comments obnoxious. They both had the right to say them; but the networks also have the right to decide to suspend or fire them for those remarks.

Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences.
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Amen. I've found myself saying this a lot lately.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1062694968 said:
Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

Got it...

What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.
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This is not a free speech issue. His right to free speech has not been abridged.
 
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mac said:
A&E has censored free speech. You should be just as incensed by that as you are about whatever he said. I'm sure if he had said "Homosexuality is cool in my book." and they had done what they did....all kinds of people would be demanding they be removed from the air.
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No they have not.
 
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Ray410 said:
Actually, A&E, like Liberalism itself, is censoring free thought. He didn't say it on A&E, nor did it have any connection to A&E.

All other stations issue disclaimers "He does not represent the views of this network." In this case though, those thoughts are not allowed by the liberal rulers.

Liberalism and the thought police will see a huge backlash from this.
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Geez, I have to do three shots for this post.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Read his quote, it cannot be reasonably construed any other way. Most peopled don't follow up homosexuality with beastality.
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So your brand of intolerance is OK.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

paddymcdougall said:
I assume you also were upset by Bashir getting piled on for his comments re Palin then?
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He said what he did on his network show.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

CRUE CAB said:
He said what he did on his network show.
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If he was being interviewed elsewhere, it'd be cool?
 
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ecofarm said:
If he was being interviewed elsewhere, it'd be cool?
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Yes. Cool, no. But not a reason to fire him or ask for his resignation. But MSNBC has a habit of firing, and or letting people quit only to bring them back.
 
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