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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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yea, where did that ability get him?

It got him a million or more fans, I really wasnt a fan of the show that much. Not really a hunter, but I hate it when a persons 1A rights and livelyhood are threatened by the very people that demand tolerance and understanding.
 
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It got him a million or more fans, I really wasnt a fan of the show that much. Not really a hunter, but I hate it when a persons 1A rights and livelyhood are threatened by the very people that demand tolerance and understanding.

show us how his first amendment rights were threatened
he still has them

seems you are without knowledge about what you post
 
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It got him a million or more fans, I really wasnt a fan of the show that much. Not really a hunter, but I hate it when a persons 1A rights and livelyhood are threatened by the very people that demand tolerance and understanding.

I assume you also were upset by Bashir getting piled on for his comments re Palin then?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I assume you also were upset by Bashir getting piled on for his comments re Palin then?

With all sincerity, how do you compare the 2?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

With all sincerity, how do you compare the 2?

"freedom of speech" isn't just for speech you agree with.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I found Robertson's AND Bashir's comments obnoxious. They both had the right to say them; but the networks also have the right to decide to suspend or fire them for those remarks.

Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences.
 
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As offensive as it may be to you, when it comes to business, yes it is.

Doesn't offend me at all... just interesting to see it out there like that. Seems to me morals, ethics, and standards should have a say/play in money grubbing.
 
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now you can include among your cohort of supporters the westboro church, which has announced its intent to picket A&E. that should make you very proud of such an association
kind of like A&E being proud of its association with phil robertson

Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

Got it...

What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.
 
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"freedom of speech" isn't just for speech you agree with.

That is true, but attacking one person in a particularly nasty way vs citing biblical scripture is not the same.
 
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"freedom of speech" isn't just for speech you agree with.

There was a time when the old adage applied, "I may disagree with what you have to day, but I will defend your right to say it." Who cares or who should care what a radio or tv talk show host says, or an entertainer for that fact. We either listen or watch because we enjoy the show or we don't. If one does not like what an entertainer said, just stop watching the show. Change the dial or turn off TV and spend some family time together.

It seems to me ever since this crazy PC talk started, it has been more about muzzling folks. What one says seems to warrant more punishment than any action one does. This is crazy.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

I have been wondering if A&E knew of his controversal views..
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By Scott CollinsDecember 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.

Anyone looking at the "Duck Dynasty" uproar may wonder why A&E didn't warn Phil Robertson about the dangers of talking too much to reporters.

But it now looks like they did.

















Robertson, the long-bearded patriarch of the clan of Louisiana duck-call merchants, is on "hiatus" from filming episodes of the No. 1-rated cable reality show after giving a GQ magazine interview where he made anti-gay remarks and questioned the need for the civil-rights movement. GLAAD and theNAACP, among others, condemned the comments. But thousands of fans - and even Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal - have rushed to his defense, touching off the latest skirmish in the national culture war. Late Thursday, the family said it might not want to continue the show without Phil.

The scandal has turned into the kind of tempest network executives feared all along. A&E knew of Robertson's controversial views - expounded in videotaped sermons and elsewhere - before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as gay rights and race relations, according to a producer familiar with the situation. Phil and other family members also probably signed contracts containing "morals clauses" in which they promised to, among other things, avoid anything that would embarrass or bring shame to A&E or the brand. Such clauses are standard in the entertainment and sports industries.

More at: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much - latimes.com







I am going to guess that I am not the only person on this website who has ever spoken out about things that I feel strongly about, even when I knew that what I was going to say would upset some people and might cost me my job.

If everyone on this planet refrained from ever saying anything that might offend someone, few things would ever change.

I may not agree with everything that Phil Robertson has said, but I defend his right to say whatever he wants to say.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
~ Tommy Smothers
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1062694968 said:
Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

Got it...

What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.

i am not ashamed to point out phil robertson's intolerant positions
it would be hypocritical to endorse equal rights for all but to also accept phil robertson's objection to homosexual behavior

you, on the other hand, stand with westboro baptist church in support of phil robertson's intolerance of those from the gay community. your refusal to accept equal rights for all is duly noted
 
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I am going to guess that I am not the only person on this website who has ever spoken out about things that I feel strongly about, even when I knew that what I was going to say would upset some people and might cost me my job.

If everyone on this planet refrained from ever saying anything that might offend someone, few things would ever change.

I may not agree with everything that Phil Robertson has said, but I defend his right to say whatever he wants to say.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
~ Tommy Smothers


who the hell has objected to phil robertson having a right to express his personal views, no matter how bigoted they might be?
i believe that we all agree that he has that first amendment right of free speech. but he also deserves to sustain the consequences of his bigoted statements
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

You're suggesting he should have lied?

I thought about this one question for a bit and just had a good laugh and now wish to answer it.

There are quite a few who believe in the following- "Diplomacy is saying 'nice doggy' while reaching for a rock." The saying is attributed to several folks, Ben Franklin is one. is ol' Ben telling us to lie????

I has always thought my mom had it about right- if ya can't say something nice then shut the hell up. (okie woman, she didn't sugar coat her diplomacy)

Now if Phil had kept is comments focused on himself and his earlier days of being a sinning little monkey, if he had just said it is for God to judge and because He gave us freewill each of us must decide our own path, some of us seek His Word and some don't....

I'd admire the hairy dude.

So my answer is he shouldn't lie, he forgot in a bit of hubris.

He should remember THE WORD in more than just the parts that admonish... Judge not and all that sort of thing... :peace
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

who the hell has objected to phil robertson having a right to express his personal views, no matter how bigoted they might be?
i believe that we all agree that he has that first amendment right of free speech. but he also deserves to sustain the consequences of his bigoted statements




I totally agree that everyone has to be ready to take the consequences when they say things that a lot of people disagree with.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1062694968 said:
Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

Got it...

What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.
Umm, I don't like what Phil Robertson's says, however as far as I am concerned he can continue with his show. Frankly, I couldn't care less. Its the A&E (co owned by Hearst and Disney) who suspended him.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

In Phil's mind he 'probably' believed that if he could save one God-less baby Progressive from Hell and Damnation, the interview with GQ and the subsequent uproar would be worth it.

IMO, what he said should be echoed repeatedly for that very reason.

Imagine what that BaBa Wawa interview would have been like? :)
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E made a stupid decision. It's true that SSM activists are pretty aggressive, and they would have taken some heavy fire, but it's better than risking your main cash cow, and pissing off the demographic that you depend most upon.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Umm, I don't like what Phil Robertson's says, however as far as I am concerned he can continue with his show. Frankly, I couldn't care less. Its the A&E (co owned by Hearst and Disney) who suspended him.

They better hope some of the folks from the History channel don't decide to bail.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E made a stupid decision. It's true that SSM activists are pretty aggressive, and they would have taken some heavy fire, but it's better than risking your main cash cow, and pissing off the demographic that you depend most upon.
Maybe they did make a stupid decision or it might be a way to popularize the show more than it was. Frankly, I've never heard of the show until this controversy sprung up.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Maybe they did make a stupid decision or it might be a way to popularize the show more than it was. Frankly, I've never heard of the show until this controversy sprung up.

Dude I just spent three years in Japan without television and I've heard of the show. Advertising they did not require.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Maybe they did make a stupid decision or it might be a way to popularize the show more than it was.
Frankly, I've never heard of the show until this controversy sprung up.




I had heard of it but I never watched it.


I'm not into duck hunting-or eating, I prefer fried chicken.

I am going to guess that this controversy won't help the show.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Once again, no one is offended by Phil saying that he believes homosexuality is a sin. They are offended by him then going on to basically compare 2 lesbian chicks living together to a sicko raping a dog.

Some people hear what they want to hear, and others hear what was actually said. The challenge as I see it, is trying to defend the former, while ignoring the later.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Lie. Not what he said, but he good job at joining the ranks of the other progressives and liars on the board.

Read his quote, it cannot be reasonably construed any other way. Most peopled don't follow up homosexuality with beastality.
 
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