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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's easy because you all are not followers of Christ. You call yourselves Christians, but you follow something much darker than love. They follow an ugly ideal; they snort at sinners; most look down on the poor, actually blame them for their poverty, argue to deny immigrants healthcare and a place to live, and enough of the American Christians are racists that I suspect a large segment of the American Christian movement is little different than the KKK, just without the sheets or the need to set fire to crosses.
    I will grant you that just as there are "secular Jews," there are "cultural Christians" who were born/reared in a Christian denomination but who are not themselves practicing Christians. You know who they are by their fruits.

    What is this "American Christian movement" that you speak of? You've referred to it twice now, and I've never heard of it.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    1. In one of these "Phil Threads", I've been pretty busy arguing another "dog whistle" remark of his with Excon. You know, the one where Blacks were happier before they had a right to vote and drink from public water fountains.

    As shown in my link, Phil is full of little ideas. Isn't he? I'm glad the Right Wing finds his comments worth defending. It's mighty Christian of them to defend hate speech while ignoring the plight of the poor. Hey, maybe the RW will be so busy defending haters now, they won't have time to try taking away poor people's healthcare again.
    Which of course is not what Robertson actually said, but why should you have to live in the real world at this point. The "happier" bit has been added by copy editors, but nowhere in that quote does he say they were happier.


    2.Robertson is a hater using the words in the Bible to justify his bigoted nonsense. Too bad you fail to see it.

    Whereas you are sunshine and light towards those who disagree with you.

    From the same interview:

    “We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?” - Phil Robertson

    Yeah, total hate speech.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Quite whining. Your inability to address what is actually said us your problem. Period.
    Got that contract clause yet?
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I will grant you that just as there are "secular Jews," there are "cultural Christians" who were born/reared in a Christian denomination but who are not themselves practicing Christians. You know who they are by their fruits.

    What is this "American Christian movement" that you speak of? You've referred to it twice now, and I've never heard of it.
    The homophobic hate-filled segment of the country that considers itself the Christian Right. We all know them, although few admit they are evil bastards. I'm talking about the Churches of hate led by Ralph Reed, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to name a few of the more popular ones.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Which of course is not what Robertson actually said, but why should you have to live in the real world at this point. The "happier" bit has been added by copy editors, but nowhere in that quote does he say they were happier.
    Nonsense. He clearly stated that the blacks he knew in the 50's were happy, singing and loving life picking cotton while comparing it to today's welfare and entitlement state. What exactly do you think he meant?





    Whereas you are sunshine and light towards those who disagree with you.

    From the same interview:

    “We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?” - Phil Robertson

    Yeah, total hate speech.
    I'm sure I can find a few nice things Manson said and Mao and Stalin and Hitler and probably even Jeffrey Dahmer.

    What's your point?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I've been reading Magary's stuff for years, and you haven't the first clue what you're talking about regarding his "biases".
    Sure, go with that.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm sure I can find a few nice things Manson said and Mao and Stalin and Hitler and probably even Jeffrey Dahmer.

    What's your point?
    Okay, now you're just being ugly and silly. Are you not interested in reasonable discussion?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Okay, now you're just being ugly and silly. Are you not interested in reasonable discussion?
    Because there is something going on in your "movement" when you fail to see hate for what it is. This comment shows that there is a sickness among you.
    "Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil." -- Speaking at the 2010 Wild Game Supper in Pottstown, Pa.
    For, you see. If only people who subscribe to this type of thinking took the time to challenge their own preconceived notions of the others that they judge. We'd see less of it.

    The objective observer sees plenty of the traits Phil is complaining about in that quote amongst the heterosexuals. In fact, since heteros are the majority of the planet, it's pretty clear that they are the majority of those who do what he is whining about.

    He and all those who buy into this garbage he's spewing should really rethink that idea.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Duck Dynasty's Robertson Swamp Hicks Family

    Hard growing up as poor white trash and become a star college quarterback, but somehow Phil Robertson pulled it off.



    Now Willie Robertson (CEO of Duck Commander) and his family are the poster family for Louisiana Swamp Hicks.



    Of course Jase Robertson and his family are classic rednecks...trying to look like Yuppies.




    And here's all of the Robertson Brothers after a hard day of picking cotton. They wanted to follow in their dad's footsteps.


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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Age of consent in the US is predominantly 16 years of age (30 states), which is the age Phil married Miss Kay, so I suppose it's preferable that they are married, at least. Having sex at 16 is more objectionable to me than the getting married at 16, though, by a wide margin.
    Seriously? You know if they get married at 16 they're having sex at 16 - at least after marriage.

    And marriage - you're saying it's better if someone at age 16 who doesn't really have a clue what they will end up doing gets married (so they can have sex) - a technically lifetime commitment - rather than have some sex (protected) and give themselves time to find out who they are and what they want to be.

    Yes, some couples that get married at 16 work out. Lots don't.

    I would hate to see a 16 yr old getting married; it's too permanent a commitment.

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