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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Condemning the actions of consenting adults is petty, made even worse when invoking the name of God.
    Please show me where I condemned anything other than you inability to understand what was said.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I've never seen the show, but here's my perspective.

    A&E are idiots. They've painted themselves in to a corner.

    Never even seen the show, but ONE look at that man and I can tell you he doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks of him. He's an old ass man, and he's gonna say what he wants to say. He's not apologizing for anything.

    I don't think he gives a damn if they ever do a show again, one way or the other.

    So A&E painted themselves in to a corner. Either they cancel the show and give up all that revenue, or they reinstate him with their tail between their legs, and now they've pissed off all the gays and libs.

    A&E.... amateur hour. LULZ.
    And with that understanding doesn't this whole thing seem like a publicity stunt.

    A lot more people now know his name, the name of the show, and that A&E actually exists.

    I do agree with you in that I don't think he cares what any of these people think. No smart person would.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which felt with a time period. He added pre-welfare, which is before now, which is in all ways a comparison. You are factually incorrect.
    You should pay better attention to what was said.

    "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy?"

    So again.

    Do you not understand that he is repeating the question back?

    What do you think,"you say" means.

    He was repeating the question back to the person.


    He was speaking of his personal experience of the specific time period asked about.
    He made no comparison.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The mistake here in our liberals of the forum's thinking is the same mistake the biased author of the article makes, and puts IN his article....From the GQ article on the opening page the author starts off painting a picture of a backwoods redneck, that he obviously doesn't understand, and in fact looks down on for his way of life....He starts the article saying this....

    "How in the world did a family of squirrel-eating, Bible-thumping, catchphrase-spouting duck hunters become the biggest TV stars in America?"

    squirrel eating? bible thumping?

    Both of these descriptors are used to paint a negative picture of rural Americans, or people of faith. Then in the next sentence of the article Magary extends his confused slur to the general viewership of the show by describing those who watch as:

    "And what will they do now that they have 14 million fervent disciples?"

    "fervent disciples" is used to describe them IMO, to paint the picture of extremists could be the only people tuning in.
    It's insulting to say the least, but don't let our feathers get ruffled, we don't have that right according to leftists that distort, dissemble, and twist his words in the article, all for the sake of manufacturing a contrived controversy.

    In the opening plate setting load of Bull that this Magary sets up is this one....

    "Out here in these woods, without any cameras around, Phil is free to say what he wants. Maybe a little too free. He’s got lots of thoughts on modern immorality, and there’s no stopping them from rushing out. Like this one:

    “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

    Perhaps we’ll be needing that seat belt after all."

    Is this guy for real? Oh, so witty...."there's no stopping them" He's the goddamn interviewer for Christ sake, he set him up to hear what Robertson had to say, and knew what he would say on this, then the "Perhaps we'll be needing that seat belt..." comment is just crap, what a tool.

    As for what Phil said there, he only said that HE prefers women....But in Magary's mind that is wrong, and can't understand obviously how someone could be heterosexual. He's an idiot.

    Then just the next paragraph down he set's Phil up to be a southern bigot as well by asking him what he thought of living in the south during the civil rights era....But he doesn't show the question/answer as an honest reporter would do, instead, he has his answer, and with editorial licence chop's it up to say, or imply what HE (Magary) wants to get across about Phil:

    "Phil On Growing Up in Pre-Civil-Rights-Era Louisiana
    “I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

    This comment was inserted in the middle of describing how Phil went to LouTech, and dropped out giving his QB spot to Terry Bradshaw...So, what it's relevance was to begin with is not clear, unless you know that the article was a hit piece aimed at painting this guy as some sort of Racist/Homophobe/Redneck.

    It is Magary who inserted the "Pre civil rights" tag to the comment, NOT Phil. And Phil makes it clear that his experience was what HE saw with his own eyes, not the overall movement, and treatment of the times....

    All this is, are liberals using this article designed to deliver a manufactured outrage into the lap of those special interest groups like GLAAD, and HRC that they knew would get all flustered over the mere mention that someone is heterosexual, instead of gay, and they succeeded.

    How dumb that liberals can't read in context, or look at the interview with fairness in what is quote, and what is added to stir them up....IOW, a real lack of critical thinking on their part...
    I've been reading Magary's stuff for years, and you haven't the first clue what you're talking about regarding his "biases".
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Gays can be Christians. Wow. Cool.

    So, what's Phil whining about?
    Phil listed a litany of biblical sins in that interview, one of them happened to be the progressive dog whistle of the moment.

    Hey...Are Cristians cool with marrying off daughters at 15 and 16? Phil sure is.

    There are a couple more gems in that link up there which are even better. Glad too see you Christians hitching your wagon to such a righteous SOB. Suh-weet.
    So if I agree with Robertson on one thing you think that means I have to agree with Robertson on all things? Age of consent in the US is predominantly 16 years of age (30 states), which is the age Phil married Miss Kay, so I suppose it's preferable that they are married, at least. Having sex at 16 is more objectionable to me than the getting married at 16, though, by a wide margin.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Somebody can also be a serial killer and be a Christian.
    Well yeah, that's certainly an extension of what I said.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm glad you're at least being honest about your opinion of "us Christians."
    It's easy because you all are not followers of Christ. You call yourselves Christians, but you follow something much darker than love. They follow an ugly ideal; they snort at sinners; most look down on the poor, actually blame them for their poverty, argue to deny immigrants healthcare and a place to live, and enough of the American Christians are racists that I suspect a large segment of the American Christian movement is little different than the KKK, just without the sheets or the need to set fire to crosses.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Please show me where I condemned anything other than you inability to understand what was said.
    I thought we were talking about Phil Robertson and the verbal assaults on Homosexuals by Christians in general. Why are you taking things so damned personal??

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    1. Phil listed a litany of biblical sins in that interview, one of them happened to be the progressive dog whistle of the moment.

    2. So if I agree with Robertson on one thing you think that means I have to agree with Robertson on all things? Age of consent in the US is predominantly 16 years of age (30 states), which is the age Phil married Miss Kay, so I suppose it's preferable that they are married, at least. Having sex at 16 is more objectionable to me than the getting married at 16, though, by a wide margin.
    1. In one of these "Phil Threads", I've been pretty busy arguing another "dog whistle" remark of his with Excon. You know, the one where Blacks were happier before they had a right to vote and drink from public water fountains.

    As shown in my link, Phil is full of little ideas. Isn't he? I'm glad the Right Wing finds his comments worth defending. It's mighty Christian of them to defend hate speech while ignoring the plight of the poor. Hey, maybe the RW will be so busy defending haters now, they won't have time to try taking away poor people's healthcare again.


    2.Robertson is a hater using the words in the Bible to justify his bigoted nonsense. Too bad you fail to see it.

    This is a rant of a madman:
    Quote Originally Posted by LAT article
    "Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil." -- Speaking at the 2010 Wild Game Supper in Pottstown, Pa.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    You know, the one where Blacks were happier before they had a right to vote and drink from public water fountains.
    The mid-1800s? I don't believe he commented about the mid-1800s (and you know he didn't).

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