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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So what? God bless America that we have people that can find a niche to make money...I know you hate that.

    What are you trying to say? Only uneducated rubes would have faith?

    You can hate the sin, and love the sinner....

    Ok...So?



    Ok, so you dislike poor people....Or is it that you dislike poor people that have faith?

    Yeah? Who taught you your bigoted views?
    J-Mac...apparently nobody taught you to recognize satire. My comments are based on those who seem to be as you've accused me to be.

    I'm not anti-gay. I'm not a racists. I know what being poor is. However, I've tried to be a charitable person for most of my life. And I'm far from poor today. I earned what I have. But I've never made it through this world alone. We all depend on others in many ways. All is not equal in this world...never has been, nor will it ever be. Until people recognize that...our world will never evolve to a more realistic understanding of the human condition as a whole. And we'll never learn how to truly end disparity.

    I've been a fan of the duck for a while. But I think that Phil has made choices that isn't good for himself or his family image on A&E and the Sport's Channel. It wasn't a prudent business decision.

    If Phil want's to be a living example of his faith and beliefs...I could care less. He doesn't have to associate or have sex with gay people. His views on the "happiness level" of blacks pre-civil rights...are 1000% incorrect. That belief is insane as believing the holocaust didn't happen during WWII.

    Phil has a Masters in Education. He's smart enough to know that what he did by publicly making his personal beliefs known would very likely create a controversy that would come back to bite him in the ass. And I, for one, think that the ridicule that he got was deserved.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    ROFLMAO!!! Good one!
    Thanks, Paddy...

    I'm glad you caught the satire in my comment. Apparently others take what I posted as somehow related to my personal beliefs, which are quite the opposite.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Thanks, Paddy...

    I'm glad you caught the satire in my comment. Apparently others take what I posted as somehow related to my personal beliefs, which are quite the opposite.
    Your "shooting gay ducks" comment was pretty funny too!!

    And yeah, Robertson has a good education, at least on paper. His family is rich. They're playing at this backwoods stuff because they're able to.

    No problem; they are dishing out entertainment that a lot of people like to watch. But hey - part of being famous is getting jumped on when one says something others find offensive.

    And Phil SHOULD be too educated to espouse such views; but even educated people can be bigots. Or at least can say bigoted things, should I say.

    But that "he only shoots gay ducks" line was GREAT!

    thanks for the laughs; we need more on the forums!

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It does if you want to be accurate, and fair to what he was saying.



    I like to be accurate, and fair to what he was saying.



    He never claimed that.



    That's your assumption. Do you have proof as to how many seasons he worked in the fields?



    He never said he did, only that which he witnessed among the people he worked along side with during the time he was working with them...



    That is what he said he witnessed among the people he knew while working along side them at that time he did....Do you have something to empirically show that wasn't the case?

    Why are you projecting your 'white guilt' on him?
    SO, Blacks picking cotton are in their groove, doing god's work.

    I can't believe you all are actually defending his comment. But...then again, knowing who I am talking to, I guess I should not be surprised.

    After all, Blacks gotta know their place. Right?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    God created free will. You can just as easily say that "God created the idolator", but I think you wouldn't then decide that idolatry isn't a sin. The world is filled with things to lust after that the Bible says we shouldn't act on. The world torments us all. Nobody who has ever lived has been free of proscribed desires except for Jesus and his mother Mary. Homosexuals are not unique in this torment.



    There is plenty of choice. The world is an abundance of choice. The Bible purports to define what the good choices are.



    No, a parent that gives their adolescent child clear rules of behavior (drawn from a lifetime of their own trial and error) and then lets them go into the world to make their own choices and mistakes don't love their children any less, nor are they cruel.



    I believe there is a God and that Jesus is the son of God. I have been an atheist in my life and a believer of several different flavors in that time. What brought me back to Christianity in the end was the realization that what Jesus taught 2000 years ago is something that had never been taught before, and never been taught since that time, really. The old Gods and the new Gods are about power, and the whim of power that comes along with it. We as human were always subject to the whim of Gods and rulers who believed themselves to be Gods. The torment on Earth has largely centered on this simple truth.

    What we see in the old testament and developing up through the new testament is a God who's power is not channeled towards Earthly desire, but towards a relinquishing of power. Free will is God giving up his power. With the gift of free will we also have been given instruction on what the correct choices are, a cheat sheet for life on Earth. We are told to understand sin and avoid temptations to disobey God's rules, and be good to our fellow man as their lives too are filled with torment. This isn't to say that all Christians succeed in this perfect display of God's power granted us. We have free will, and the existence of free will requires that the wrong choice always be available to us, but many of us -- indeed all of us -- make wrong choices on a daily basis. But that doesn't make the wrong choices right. We could be denied free will if God wanted, but we wouldn't be human at that point. We would be no more than a stone, or a cog in a watch, less than an animal.
    Free Will?

    You obviously do not understand homosexuality. Gays are not attracted to those of the opposite sex. Free will is not at play here. A homosexual has but two choices: be celibate or "sin". Why would god put a human being (millions of them, actually) in that position? Choose: no sex or be condemned to hell.

    You, Phil and the rest of your ilk, people who are not living with a condition which leaves someone attracted only to those of the same sex, without having any idea of what the hell you are talking about, is disgusting. It's abhorrent, the height of arrogance. Maybe someday you'll find out the hard way just how wrong you and your ilk really are. I hope not, but I suspect being hit over the head by the reality hammer will be the only way you'll learn.

    Sad.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Audacity?
    The audacity comes from you questioning his personal experience.
    Correct. Phil's personal experience is Blacks are happiest picking cotton. Hallelujah!

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    SO, Blacks picking cotton are in their groove, doing god's work.
    See now you are lying about what I said.

    I can't believe you all are actually defending his comment. But...then again, knowing who I am talking to, I guess I should not be surprised.
    Personal attack? Nice...You lose.

    After all, Blacks gotta know their place. Right?
    That is how liberals think....BTW, your entire post to me here is vile trash.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    See now you are lying about what I said.



    Personal attack? Nice...You lose.



    That is how liberals think....BTW, your entire post to me here is vile trash.
    Your the one defending the comment that blacks picking cotton before civil rights were happier than they are today. Why are you running away from what that really means?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Your the one defending the comment that blacks picking cotton before civil rights were happier than they are today. Why are you running away from what that really means?
    That also is a lie.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're factually incorrect. Then and his is a comparison, the second he said "pre" he was comparing. You are factually incorrect.
    You are factually incorrect.
    He is answering a question. Not making a comparison.

    You again are willfully ignoring that he was answering a question of a specific time period in his life.

    That is not making a comparison.


    You are choosing to see that which is not there. That is a product of your own irrational biased beliefs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No. He was asked a question about that time period. What do you think "You say" means? He is responding to a question asked. "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy?"
    It is clear that he is answering a question related to a specific time period, and he answered with his personal experience.

    Or do you really not understand repeating the question asked back to the person so there is no misunderstanding?

    He made no comparison. It was what he was asked.





    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Correct. Phil's personal experience is Blacks are happiest picking cotton. Hallelujah!
    You are continuing with more absurdity?

    You really should stop bearing false witness.

    He was not speaking of all blacks. And you know that.
    So come back to reality, and leave your biased irrational beliefs behind.
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