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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Really? Good to know the OT "got it right when it commands parents bring disobedient children to the town square for a good old fashioned stoning
    Deuteronomy 21:18-21 KJV - If a man have a stubborn and rebellious - Bible Gateway

    Didn't Jesus in the NT stop a stoning, saying that those with no sins should cast the first stone? Seems to me this is in direct conflict with the OT.

    Whoops...apdst.
    Sigh. I should be used to people being so ignorant of the Bible by now.

    Jesus is the word of God made flesh. He brought the New Testament to the people of the Earth. Your argument that Jesus contradicts the Old Testament is like claiming that Einstein contradicted Newton. There is no contradiction, only further revelation. Jesus came to let us know that death is not for us to decide, but for God. We will die a spiritual death in sin, we lose ever lasting life. There is still punishment for the lazy drunkard of a son, it's just not for us to dole out.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    And again. There was nothing wrong with what he said. It was his person experience at the time.

    If you find anything wrong with it, it is a manifestation of your your own deluded and biased thoughts.
    I and others notice this new trend where religious folks use freedom of religion to discriminate. I'm quite sure Jesus would not approve, but Phil is just another member of that false church of Christ which takes away the rights of others in the name of their Idol.

    Across the country, we are seeing hospitals, insurance companies, pharmacies, and other health care entities discriminate against women by denying basic care – like birth control, emergency contraception, and abortion – in the name of religion. Many of these institutions receive taxpayer funding. The ACLU works to ensure that women are not denied information and the health care they need because of the religious views of their health care providers.

    We have seen a recent spate of cases in which religiously affiliated schools have fired women for getting pregnant while single or for using IVF. These cases are suggestive of a past when women were routinely pushed out of the workplace because of pregnancy. Such discrimination is now illegal, even if religiously motivated.

    In many states, businesses are barred by law from discriminating against customers based on their sexual orientation, as well as based on race, religion, or other legally protected categories. Increasingly, we see business owners claiming that they do not have to follow these laws but can instead refuse to provide services – including lodging, wedding dresses, and photography services – because the owners object to same-sex relationships. In addition, we see social service organizations that receive government funding deny services to same-sex couples. Everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs, but when you operate a business or run a publicly funded social service agency open to the public, those beliefs do not give you a right to discriminate.

    https://www.aclu.org/using-religion-discriminate
    Makes you wonder if Phil discriminates against non-Christians and Gays at Duck Command. Someone should find out and then sue his ass into poverty.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I and others notice this new trend where religious folks use freedom of religion to discriminate. I'm quite sure Jesus would not approve, but Phil is just another member of that false church of Christ which takes away the rights of others in the name of their Idol.



    Makes you wonder if Phil discriminates against non-Christians and Gays at Duck Command. Someone should find out and then sue his ass into poverty.

    Deflecting with irrelevancy, is still deflecting.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    The mistake here in our liberals of the forum's thinking is the same mistake the biased author of the article makes, and puts IN his article....From the GQ article on the opening page the author starts off painting a picture of a backwoods redneck, that he obviously doesn't understand, and in fact looks down on for his way of life....He starts the article saying this....

    "How in the world did a family of squirrel-eating, Bible-thumping, catchphrase-spouting duck hunters become the biggest TV stars in America?"

    squirrel eating? bible thumping?

    Both of these descriptors are used to paint a negative picture of rural Americans, or people of faith. Then in the next sentence of the article Magary extends his confused slur to the general viewership of the show by describing those who watch as:

    "And what will they do now that they have 14 million fervent disciples?"

    "fervent disciples" is used to describe them IMO, to paint the picture of extremists could be the only people tuning in.
    It's insulting to say the least, but don't let our feathers get ruffled, we don't have that right according to leftists that distort, dissemble, and twist his words in the article, all for the sake of manufacturing a contrived controversy.

    In the opening plate setting load of Bull that this Magary sets up is this one....

    "Out here in these woods, without any cameras around, Phil is free to say what he wants. Maybe a little too free. He’s got lots of thoughts on modern immorality, and there’s no stopping them from rushing out. Like this one:

    “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

    Perhaps we’ll be needing that seat belt after all."

    Is this guy for real? Oh, so witty...."there's no stopping them" He's the goddamn interviewer for Christ sake, he set him up to hear what Robertson had to say, and knew what he would say on this, then the "Perhaps we'll be needing that seat belt..." comment is just crap, what a tool.

    As for what Phil said there, he only said that HE prefers women....But in Magary's mind that is wrong, and can't understand obviously how someone could be heterosexual. He's an idiot.

    Then just the next paragraph down he set's Phil up to be a southern bigot as well by asking him what he thought of living in the south during the civil rights era....But he doesn't show the question/answer as an honest reporter would do, instead, he has his answer, and with editorial licence chop's it up to say, or imply what HE (Magary) wants to get across about Phil:

    "Phil On Growing Up in Pre-Civil-Rights-Era Louisiana
    “I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

    This comment was inserted in the middle of describing how Phil went to LouTech, and dropped out giving his QB spot to Terry Bradshaw...So, what it's relevance was to begin with is not clear, unless you know that the article was a hit piece aimed at painting this guy as some sort of Racist/Homophobe/Redneck.

    It is Magary who inserted the "Pre civil rights" tag to the comment, NOT Phil. And Phil makes it clear that his experience was what HE saw with his own eyes, not the overall movement, and treatment of the times....

    All this is, are liberals using this article designed to deliver a manufactured outrage into the lap of those special interest groups like GLAAD, and HRC that they knew would get all flustered over the mere mention that someone is heterosexual, instead of gay, and they succeeded.

    How dumb that liberals can't read in context, or look at the interview with fairness in what is quote, and what is added to stir them up....IOW, a real lack of critical thinking on their part...
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Jesus is my pastor.

    I just don't believe him to be God, like you all do. In fact, I believe worshiping Christ as God is Idolatry.

    Many who worship Jesus are simply following he teachings:


    John 10:7-9

    7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

    8 “All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

    9 “I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Sigh. I should be used to people being so ignorant of the Bible by now.

    Jesus is the word of God made flesh. He brought the New Testament to the people of the Earth. Your argument that Jesus contradicts the Old Testament is like claiming that Einstein contradicted Newton. There is no contradiction, only further revelation. Jesus came to let us know that death is not for us to decide, but for God. We will die a spiritual death in sin, we lose ever lasting life. There is still punishment for the lazy drunkard of a son, it's just not for us to dole out.

    You don't have to believe this, but in not believing you needn't be so oblivious and ignorant to the the beliefs of others in the process.
    Jesus never claimed to be God. He did however preach of forgiveness and salvation, something not offered in the OT. But, most importantly he commanded that we should not judge others, but love them. He didn't at all, in any way, say that the OT should be followed. He did contradict it--you know, all that stoning and smiting...

    Jesus showed whomever listened a better way. Most people still don't get it, especially the so-called Christians.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Deflecting with irrelevancy, is still deflecting.
    It's expanding, showing the hateful nature and discriminatory actions of people hiding behind "freedom of religion".

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's expanding, showing the hateful nature and discriminatory actions of people hiding behind "freedom of religion".
    No one is this obtuse.
    You must be some paid shill.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Many who worship Jesus are simply following he teachings:


    John 10:7-9

    7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

    8 “All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

    9 “I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
    And, that doesn't spell out to you that most of the crap written in the OT was written by Thieves and Robbers? It sure does me. It basically says, ignore all that OT crap, follow my message and you'll be fine.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No one is this obtuse.
    You must be some paid shill.
    Back at ya.

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