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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I think it to be very hypocritical too. However if it reaches the point of unfounded slander of an individual, we have laws to deal with that. I am a real big supporter of free speech. Because I find it offensive isn't enough to jump on a bandwagon to have it banned. On the contrary, it should be countered with even more free speech!
    In this case, it was.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In this case, it was.
    Yes Kobie, my goodness it's Christmas Eve and you and I agree. Robertson was asked about his personal beliefs. He shared them. They were met by those who found them "offensive" and wanted to have him "punished"..... "silenced" for speaking his mind. But a huge group of citizens engaged in their Freedom of Speech to show their disdain for bullying another person over their personal beliefs. Yeah, Free Speech won.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What gives you the right to call anyone "sinners"? Taking that authority is mighty arrogant of you. And, you wonder why the rest of us loathe the "Bible Thumpers".

    You have no right to call other people sinners. None.
    Bull ****, my Lord says we're ALL sinners. That gives me the right.

    And guess what. my Bible said this falling away would happen so there's nothing to surprise me or make me wonder.

    We saw it coming.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes Kobie, my goodness it's Christmas Eve and you and I agree. Robertson was asked about his personal beliefs. He shared them. They were met by those who found them "offensive" and wanted to have him "punished"..... "silenced" for speaking his mind. But a huge group of citizens engaged in their Freedom of Speech to show their disdain for bullying another person over their personal beliefs. Yeah, Free Speech won.
    Not even remotely close to what I meant.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not even remotely close to what I meant.
    I knew that Kobie! But my summary pretty well sums up what did happen and free speech rules the day. Merry Christmas!

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Many of those things are for the respective attorneys to hash out....If A&E keeps the series name Duck Dynasty, oh well, maybe they name the show something else, and carry on.... But saying they can't do something because they have a contract, really means little if someone is willing to absorb the cost of litigation.
    Well that is true, when I say they can't do something it is using the scenario that they don't want to break any contractual laws. If they choose to put their fortune on the line to fight walking away (possibly with penalties) WITH the name Duck Dynasty that is quite possible. Either way you are correct in that it is all up to lawyers at that point.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes Kobie, my goodness it's Christmas Eve and you and I agree. Robertson was asked about his personal beliefs. He shared them. They were met by those who found them "offensive" and wanted to have him "punished"..... "silenced" for speaking his mind. But a huge group of citizens engaged in their Freedom of Speech to show their disdain for bullying another person over their personal beliefs. Yeah, Free Speech won.
    Phil has not lost his Feedom of Speech.

    But just as in many places of employment, your off duty behavior can have ramifications. Cry "that is not fair", but Freedom of Speech was never lost in that situation.

    Now, what they are faced with is a business decision. Will they lose more business if he stays or goes?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Phil has not lost his Feedom of Speech.

    But just as in many places of employment, your off duty behavior can have ramifications. Cry "that is not fair", but Freedom of Speech was never lost in that situation.

    Now, what they are faced with is a business decision. Will they lose more business if he stays or goes?
    Obviously if he goes...That's why they've already re instated him.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    'Ya know, I think both the Liberals and Conservatives on this board are posting asshattishness here. Let me explain.....

    1) OK, Phil Robertson said some outlandish things and A&E suspended him. Conservatives rushed to his defense, and Liberals are smacking him.

    2) Flash back to 2002, when Bill Maher had a show on ABC called "Politically Incorrect". He was fired for saying that the terrorists who hit the World Trade Center had guts. That was also outlandish. in this case, Liberals rushed to defend him, while Conservatives smacked him.

    Just pointing out that there is a little hypocrisy on both sides of the political divide. Let us not forget that both ABC and A&E are not the government. They are privately owned companies, and their stockholders don't want the kind of controversy people like this generate. In the case of ABC, they wanted political humor, and in the case of A&E, they just wanted a good reality TV show. Neither of these cases is about trampling of first Amendment rights, so please - Both sides - Quit your bull**** astroturf dramas, and let's get down to discussing some real issues. Homeless veterans would be a good start. Do you care more about them, or is it the corporate pablum puke from the mass media that turns you on? I mean, with all the real issues at stake, which include the excesses of both the Obama and Bush administrations, you really want to make this bull**** an issue? Gimme a ****ing break!!
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Obviously if he goes...That's why they've already re instated him.
    Not according to the Robertson family they haven't.

    Duck Dynasty News: Phil Robertson ‘Reinstated’ By A&E For Season 5?
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