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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I grew up in Jacksonville and spent most summers in Macon County. How would you describe race relations in Macon County during the 70's?
    I grew up in my early years in Jacksonville. Perhaps you know where Phenix Ave is? I moved to Georgia about 1972. Maybe 73. My memory records a rather violent time in Jacksonville. The family tells a story of us huddling in the living room during a riot, hoping our home would be passed.

    What do you remember?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Common sense and the Bible do not Jibe. It starts with the silly notion of a flood and all the animals being saved by a man with a boat. It moves on to describing a birth that was conceived free of intercourse; proceeds to a martyr raised from the dead, and ends with the most ridiculous science fiction I've read since writing my own in highschool.
    Ah, I see.

    Then you were lying about the beliefs of 'your God'.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Face it, the bible is not fact, it is faith. Just like all the other religions out there and that's not a bad thing. You believe it and that's what is important, but it isn't fact. If it were fact, it would be undisputable and unfortunately it isn't undisputable.
    Not for a Godless wretch like you.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Not for a Godless wretch like you.
    Doesn't make what I said any less true. The bible is not FACT, it is faith. Plain and simple. BTW I am not godless, I'm agnostic. There is a difference, I suggest you learn it and look less foolish.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you are speculating based on your own experience signing "non competition" contracts.



    Nonsense. People in entertainment do this all the time....Think of the music industry....When Led Zepplin for instance didn't see eye to eye with Atlantic Records anymore after 1974, so they formed their own record label...Contracts are changed, broken, acts move all the time.
    Actually, Zep never really left Atlantic. They had a vanity label, but Swan Song was still manufactured and distributed by Atlantic. They also held all of the cards after putting out 5 records on Atlantic and being the most popular rock act at the time. They renegotiated from a position of power.

    Contracts are not broken without a battle. I very much doubt that the Robertson's could just "decide" they wanted to be on a different network without a legal battle. If you want to use the music industry, look into why it took 3 years between "Born to Run" and "Darkness on the Edge of Town" for Bruce Springsteen. Or why Prince changed his name to a symbol. Next time someone does a guest spot, read the liner notes. When it says "so and so appears courtesy of such and such a label" it means that they are under contract with a different label, but the label was nice enough to allow them to make a guest appearance despite the contract.

    Have you read the contract, or are you just living in a fantasy?


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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Not for a Godless wretch like you.
    I'm not Godless. I believe in the lessons and teachings of the Bible. I also believe in what Jesus said about judging others. You might want to look into that part.


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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I grew up in my early years in Jacksonville. Perhaps you know where Phenix Ave is? I moved to Georgia about 1972. Maybe 73. My memory records a rather violent time in Jacksonville. The family tells a story of us huddling in the living room during a riot, hoping our home would be passed.

    What do you remember?
    Downtown Jacksonville was ugly. Phoenix is, not surprisingly, a few blocks north of MLK Blvd. I got bussed into a downtown school (Butler). I have a 2 inch scar courtesy a kid with a steel pipe.They used to run drills with the coaches and some of the male teachers, sweep the white kids up and lock us into the gym. I was held at gunpoint several times, but mostly it was people from Wolfson HS just ****ing with us. I hear that Wolfson has become one of the best schools in the area due to selective enrollment. I went to Forrest my sophomore year. Decent school back then...they bussed black kids in, played sports with them...didnt have a problem.

    Jacksonville is one of the largest cities in the country by area. Parts of the city are great. Other parts...not so much. I lived in Sweetwater. People were living in half finished houses and trailers. As scary as downtown Jacksonville was, I can tell you race was a zero on our givea****ometer where I lived. In Macon...it was all backwoods. My friends dad owned a construction business and made and sold white lightning. We worked for him during the summers and long weekends cleaning sites. I'm sure some folk out there were racist, but there were blacks, whites, and Cubans that worked for him and there was never any static.

    I went back to Jacksonville for a conference last year. Sealed it for me. Never have a need or reason to go back.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Yeah, I don't get it coming from apdst…. My post was unPC, but to call white people rednecks isn't bigoted. I mean, WTF, lots of white people call themselves rednecks.
    You stepped in it now. Some black folks call themselves "niggers", doesn't mean it's okay or that others can do it. Or so the script goes.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    You have "facts" in your religion. Do provide them. This I gotta see.
    You made the assertion that the Bible doesn't distinguish between the supposed sin of eating shellfish and the sin of homosexuality. Your ignorance has been disproven by a quote from the Bible. Open your eyes and you might see.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    And, you can't bring yourselves to interpret this teaching to also include those who have different sexual proclivities? After all, "God" made the homosexual desire and want relations with people of the same sex. Are you all saying God screwed up? Or maybe your God is a big meanie who puts such desires in the heads of millions and then severely punishes any who relent to temptation.

    I doubt it.

    But, what does seem clear to me is that He is saying: don't judge those who are different than you.
    No, you can't. You've already demonstrated you have no clue as to biblical teachings, why continue?

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