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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're happier now with higher divorce rate, muder rate, unemployment rate, more welfare dependency? And according to the Libbos, black folks are still discriminated against as much as ever.

    Seriously? you haven't noticed, oh, that black people can now vote? That Oprah is one of the richest people in the world? that, while discrimination still happens, black people are scientists, CEOs, athletes, politicians -and, gasp - even President of the United States? you really think they were happier in the 40s/50s when they had no hope but field jobs, house jobs, and what not?

    SERIOUSLY???

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont see the warnings of the Bible the way that many do. I certainly recognize it as text for a more primitive people that has had room to evolve. Even with that, while many see and accept only condemnation, I see as warning and guidance from a loving father.

    Now...with regard to shellfish and pork...we certainly have modern health standards that would appear to have protected people that would otherwise have died or at the very least become very ill had the foods not been properly prepared. Conversely, "It is estimated that nearly 1 million individuals are currently infected with HIV in the country, and the number appears to be increasing each year. From the mid-1980s on, AIDS had a pivotal role in the rollback of Sexual Revolution habits in the big cities of the United States. Male to male sexual contact accounted for about half of new cases, and intravenous drug use contributed about a fifth of cases. The cumulative number of deaths in the U.S. due to causes related to AIDS is estimated to be more than 650,000. There are about 50,000 new cases of HIV in the US every year."

    And to ME...just with my belief system...THAT is why it was given in scripture. Not as a condemnation but as a warning. And THAT is why the concern over homosexuality is still a relevant concern and the diversions over hair length and shellfish is a pathetic attempt to divert from reality. But again...thats just me.
    I have no argument with this. Maybe, the god part has me saying instead that the bible is a collection of stories written from experience. Gay sex and eating shellfish probably got you killed back then.

    ...gay sex probably still does, especially if you aren't careful.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I believe the outcry from the conservatives on this issue is oriented in a sudden public shift in opinion on the acceptance of homosexuality. And not just the lack of condemnation but the political movement towards SSM. I often hear about Gay activists pushing an agenda, which is probably true to some degree and this unsettles the traditionalists.

    I live in the south and hear my redneck acquaintances saying "it's too much Gay, too fast". I've often preached in the forums for the pro LGBT supporters to slow their roll or there will be a social divide and organized blowback. Especially with the PC control over speech. Let people have the time to adjust and freedom to vocally resist, so that a happy middle can be achieved.

    The Cracker Barrel has already gotten such a massive negative response that they put Phil's items back on the shelves.

    Hating or preaching against homosexuality is not going to make it go away. It's been around since before biblical times. And trying to force others to accept your orientation on every level is not a realistic goal. Honey catches more flies and killing with kindness eventually works.
    Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.

    That's a big

    If it's unlawful hate speech, then someone can bring charges against him otherwise it's "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're happier now with higher divorce rate, muder rate, unemployment rate, more welfare dependency? And according to the Libbos, black folks are still discriminated against as much as ever.
    So, we should go back to discrimination and all will be well? Incredible.

    And no serious person says as much as ever, exaggeration doesn't help you here

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, we should go back to discrimination and all will be well? Incredible.

    And no serious person says as much as ever, exaggeration doesn't help you here
    That's not true and you know it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Slavery has been around since biblical times too. I suppose we should learn to accept that too. Your point is a fail. No one is forcing anyone to accept anything. It is the public hate speech that won't be tolerated anymore. Just like slavery.
    Won't be tolerated by who?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not true and you know it.
    Not sure what you're calling not true.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That sentence is projection....Textbook.
    It is projection on your part to say that he is projecting. Projection is primarily a conservative tactic.
    If a conservative accuses anyone of doing something bad, it is a safe bet that is exactly what the conservative is doing.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What's absurd is saying gay sex is a sin but eating rock lobster is wink-wink not a problem.

    No.
    What is absurd is your reply.
    You have already been given the information explaining that the two are not even on the same playing field.
    Yet here you are again trying to equate them as being similar proscriptions when they are not.
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