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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Excon said:
What ever. A&E did the right thing by bringing him back.
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They should not have fired him in the first place. That was dumb. Guys like Phil should be given all the rope they want...all the better to watch him hang himself with it.
 
calamity said:
Invade my personal space and I may just shoot you. No one has the right to get in another person's face. I'll take my chances with a jury on that.
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So the sin comment part was added to pretend like that was the reason?

AGENT J said:
factually wrong
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Your's sure, sure.
 
calamity said:
They should not have fired him in the first place. That was dumb. Guys like Phil should be given all the rope they want...all the better to watch him hang himself with it.
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They basically had to. Had they not, Glaad would attempted to organize boycotts.
This way it appears they did something, but had to reverse because of the viewers.
 
Excon said:
:lamo
Yep. Exactly as I said. Your assertions are wrong.
To bad you can't admit the truth.
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once again I am not the topic

but please by all means tells us what assertions you speak off, cant wait to read them? post them in your next post, quote my "assertions that are factually wrong".
 
calamity said:
They should not have fired him in the first place. That was dumb. Guys like Phil should be given all the rope they want...all the better to watch him hang himself with it.
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he was justly punished thats all they had to do per their opinion of his behavior
 
scatt said:
Your's sure, sure.
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yep your statments or more accurately your answers to my questions were both factually wrong :shrug:
 
Well at least this is getting a lot of attention and specifically the attention of many sleeping religious people. The "gaystopo" wing of the homosexual movement have been put on notice. ;)


Tim-
 
scatt said:
Your's, sure.
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nope your answers were factually wrong if you disagree simply provide facts that prove otherwise, we'll wait
 
AGENT J said:
once again I am not the topic
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And yet your assertions about the topic are wrong. Go figure.
And neither am I. So what do you call the following lie?
AGENT J said:
good move backing off the lie you posted
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And yet I posted no lie.

The constant ignoring of the facts makes your postings wrong each and every time.

Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.​
 
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apdst said:
So...stop acting like Robertson committed a crime. He has an opinion; he expressed it; you don't like it; welcome to the real world.

Like it, or not, not everyone is going to be ok with homosexuality. Pressuring people to remain silent about their negative views of homosexuality is no different than pressuring gays to remain silent about being gay.
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He did something I cannot do in my professional life. Were I to do it, there would be small chance of recovery for me. He's lucky.

Freedom of speech, comes with consequences. Live with that. He signed a contract that in all likelihood includes a clause that covers issues like this. If it did not, A & E couldn't have suspended him without fear of legal reprisal. So Phil suffered the consequences of his actions. Nothing wrong with that.

Yes is it different. Phil expressed his beliefs. When gays are forced to remain silent about being gay, it's denying who they are, not a belief. Two different concepts.

And apparently, Phil does believe in tolerance according to the A & E statement released today. In part:

But Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man's views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about family … a family that America has come to love. As you might have seen in many episodes, they come together to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness. These are three values that we at A+E Networks also feel strongly about.
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We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company and the values found in Duck Dynasty. These PSAs will air across our entire portfolio.

In addition, an A&E source says the family and the network are going to work together to promote tolerance.
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So, I guess he's had a change of heart.
 
Excon said:
And yet your assertions about the topic are wrong. Go figure.
And neither am I. So what do you call the following lie?
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And yet I posted no lie.

The constant ignoring of the facts makes your postings wrong each and every time.

Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.​
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weird i dont see one assertion in there, another dodge
facts destroy your post again

i will ask you again, please post and quote my assertions that are factually wrong we cant wait to read them
 
scatt said:
Yeah, your's. You agreed already.
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thats what i thought you got nothing facts defeat your post again, thanks for playing

facts:
he made a comparison between homosexuality and bestiality
he equated homosexuality and bestiality

these facts will never change
 
AGENT J said:
he was justly punished thats all they had to do per their opinion of his behavior
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A&E can do whatever they want. And, they will need to live with the consequences. It looks to me like they caved to the Christian Coalition and Fox News Crowd. We'll see if anyone can up the ante and put more pressure on them or Phil's band of money-making duck lovers.
 
AGENT J said:
weird i dont see one assertion in there, another dodge
facts destroy your post again

i will ask you again, please post and quote my assertions that are factually wrong we cant wait to read them
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The facts prove you wrong, as shown.
Nothing more needs to be said.
So stop dodging and admit you were wrong when you assumed.
 
calamity said:
1.)A&E can do whatever they want.
2.) And, they will need to live with the consequences.
3.) It looks to me like they caved to the Christian Coalition and Fox News Crowd.
4.) We'll see if anyone can up the ante and put more pressure on them or Phil's band of money-making duck lovers.
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1.) well within reason
2.) this is true
3.) maybe but i dont see why suspension isnt good enough, when a person does something wrong they get punished thats what happened. Also many Christians are not like phil at all. Only some of them are bigots.
4.) my guess is he is now on probation and we wont be hearing anymore bigotry from him
 
Excon said:
The facts prove you wrong, as shown.
Nothing more needs to be said.
So stop dodging and admit you were wrong when you assumed.
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thats what i thought you got nothing and cant post any assertions

good move backing off the lie you posted

again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

FACTS:

no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

one shred of factual evidence you cant do it
 
AGENT J said:
thats what i thought you got nothing and cant post any assertions

good move backing off the lie you posted

again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

FACTS:

no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

one shred of factual evidence you cant do it
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:lamo

Just more denial and deflection.
Your assertions were wrong, as shown.
 
winston53660 said:
A&E caves for using shows in the can they already paid for ?
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LOL !!

Hey thats some "suspension".

Face it, the fringe minority has to eat crow and so does A & E.

Turns out the silent majority in this Country has no issue with Phils remarks.

No matter how much groups like GLAAD try, they cant define down their lifestyle by attacking a mans faith.

Dont get me wrong, I hope groups like GLAAD shift it into high gear.
 
Excon said:
Nope yours are.
Even Phil agrees with me.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! ANOTHER CLASSIC LINE!

or maybe I've had too much wine...

"Even Phil agrees with me"... ha ha!!!
 
Excon said:
:lamo

Just more denial and deflection.
Your assertions were wrong, as shown.
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again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

FACTS:

no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

one shred of factual evidence you cant do it
 
paddymcdougall said:
"Even Phil agrees with me"... ha ha!!!
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Is whine what you have been giving us?
But yeah, Phil is the authority on what he means.
You didn't know that?
 
AGENT J said:
again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

FACTS:

no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

one shred of factual evidence you cant do it
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:lamo

More denial and deflection. I bet this continues.

Your assertions were wrong, as shown.
 
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