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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's a weak comeback for explaining whey protesting Gays is OK but Red Lobster gets to sell crabs and rock lobsters to their hearts content.
    You saying this after being provided the information that explains the difference is ... well, quite absurd.
    It just shows that you do not care about the truth.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, in reading the articles "author" intent throughout it seems that when not mocking him, he was setting him up. So, I don't think it really matters what Phil said, it wasn't going to be a favorable interview in any event.
    Maybe, still, Phil's no idiot...he knew what he was doing.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    A&E realizing their error in bending to a small percentage of whiners has already reinstated him
    Exactly as I predicted in post #304 in this thread. A&E used the MSM foaming at the mouth, despartate for a story, as free advertising to fire up their audience for a Christmas time Duck Dynasty marathon.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    To many of us, the proscriptions against gays/lesbians are as ridiculous as those against long hair/shellfish.

    But we're not the ones swearing the bible is true except when we don't like a piece of it.
    Who's doing that? Like so many other things, there are three ways that the words, and stories in the bible are interpreted.

    1. in the sentence - ie: It means what it says, and says what it means.

    2. In a parable - ie: a story meant to teach a lesson connected with the outcome of the story.

    3. In the context - ie: the larger message intended through the paragraph, chapter, or letter.

    And there are two sections of the bible.

    1. The old testament - That is the entire first part of the book that is the history there for our learning, but not in every day practical use, IOW, I don't think that we hear of burning bushes, or bolts of lightning striking down sinners today.

    2. The New testament - these are the witness accounts of Jesus among other things that Christians strive to emulate today. Knowing that Jesus died on the cross for our sins doesn't mean that we have the authority, or could possibly judge others, I know I can't.

    But to say that someones faith is "foolish", "moronic", a "fairy tale", or any other insult, degradation that those without faith hurl at those that do believe is really nothing more than fear of those that believe. So, I don't harbor ill toward them, and can only shake my head and offer a prayer to God, that some day they too will know the love, and peace that God offers....Oh, and notice everyone that I said God, and not religion. I personally was raised a Catholic, complete with being an alter boy, and serving in the church's sponsored boy scout troop. Today, I don't really follow a regimented religion, but I do believe in God, and think that the bible brings great solace, and peace to a great many people, I think that's a good thing.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Maybe, still, Phil's no idiot...he knew what he was doing.
    Yeah, but Phil has nothing to be ashamed of, I think those that are twisting, and pulling his words out of context to smear him, and all Christians are the ones with the problem here.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    No network will touch someone who's liable, at any time, to alienate viewers. Viewers aren't customers, they're production- what the network sells to their customers.
    In that case they are confused about who the viewers are for this show.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You don't think they might have a contract with A&E or anything, do you? You don't think that maybe A&E will sue them if they try that, do you?
    I don't know. I haven't read the contract. Have you?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A&E owns the show.
    It doesn't own the Robertsons.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's a weak comeback for explaining whey protesting Gays is OK but Red Lobster gets to sell crabs and rock lobsters to their hearts content.
    I dont see the warnings of the Bible the way that many do. I certainly recognize it as text for a more primitive people that has had room to evolve. Even with that, while many see and accept only condemnation, I see as warning and guidance from a loving father.

    Now...with regard to shellfish and pork...we certainly have modern health standards that would appear to have protected people that would otherwise have died or at the very least become very ill had the foods not been properly prepared. Conversely, "It is estimated that nearly 1 million individuals are currently infected with HIV in the country, and the number appears to be increasing each year. From the mid-1980s on, AIDS had a pivotal role in the rollback of Sexual Revolution habits in the big cities of the United States. Male to male sexual contact accounted for about half of new cases, and intravenous drug use contributed about a fifth of cases. The cumulative number of deaths in the U.S. due to causes related to AIDS is estimated to be more than 650,000. There are about 50,000 new cases of HIV in the US every year."

    And to ME...just with my belief system...THAT is why it was given in scripture. Not as a condemnation but as a warning. And THAT is why the concern over homosexuality is still a relevant concern and the diversions over hair length and shellfish is a pathetic attempt to divert from reality. But again...thats just me.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're right and here is what he actually said, not the totally misquoted bull**** that's been posted, here...

    "... Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

    I'm sure he must be mistaken, because black folks are much happier now with black on black crime being what it is, the drug epidemic within the black community and 50% of black men are unemployed.
    You can't see where that might be offensive?

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