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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Excon said:
I will take your bait.
Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison.
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no bait but please feel free to continue to make up what ever you like :shrug:
but yes it is making a comparison, this fact will never change.

would you like proof that your post is 100% wrong and it is a comparison?
lets simply look at what you said and the definition of the word comparison.
you claim he simply stated they are sins right? sins being a singular definition of many things would in fact be a label or category of things.

now lets look at the definition of comparison.


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

the fact is it was and is a comparison no amount of opinion will change that fact.

Facts and links proof your statement wrong, your mistake.
 
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More telling is the reaction of Governor Jindal in preparing for Iowa, home to one of the most bigoted congressman we have, Steve King..
Removable Mind said:
uh huh....so is the hypocrisy, racism and bigot that Phil Robertson expresses such sorrow for saying publicly...knowing full well that he said bigoted and racist comments in his GQ interview...because he is actually all of those things.
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NIMBY said:
More telling is the reaction of Governor Jindal in preparing for Iowa, home to one of the most bigoted congressman we have, Steve King..
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That'll be something won't it... :shock:
 
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I didn't know Duckk threw Pedophiles like Sandusky at the GLBT frolks..
Excon said:
That is nothing other than a manifestation of your own biased thoughts.
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Expect the new dear leader of the whacko-wing to single out the Pope in the new year .
 
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Removable Mind said:
Ex...sorry, you can't get their with Willie. Far from a comparison. Willie could save his head and beard and people would still line up to see him. Why? He has talent. Clean up the Duck Boys and let the world see the true yuppie Robertsons...and their show is OVER!
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Holy ****. Are you really not paying attention?

Willie was clean cut prior too, and his look evolved over time.
Just as Phil's has.


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OMG! Willie was a yuppy before they knew what a yuppy was. My how he has changed.
D'oh!


And Phil was successful prior to this show. Which is talent. Duh!
 
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Removable Mind said:
Extra, Extra, Read All About It!

See the real duck dynasty family on post #909

The Duck Dynasty Family is Really A YUPPIE FAMILY PLAYING LIKE A REDNECK FAMILY! :lamo
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Wow, I don't have a beard either, does that mean I am a yuppie?

Do you know what yuppie means?
 
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nota bene said:
So can I, and I am working with a strong directive to refer everything to my employer's public info officer. But none of us knows Robertson's contract details. For example, was he required to vet potential interviews? What is A&E's policy on having media-rep "handlers" to "assist" its stars with interviews? Etc.
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As was discussed in the OP:
A&E knew of Robertson's controversial views - expounded in videotaped sermons and elsewhere - before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as gay rights and race relations, according to a producer familiar with the situation. Phil and other family members also probably signed contracts containing "morals clauses" in which they promised to, among other things, avoid anything that would embarrass or bring shame to A&E or the brand. Such clauses are standard in the entertainment and sports industries.
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A standard morals clause would cover this kind of thing and if they signed it, and I cannot imagine A & E would have left it out, then it is their responsibility to follow the rules of that contract, a legally binding document. Handlers, do not sign the contract, the talent does and they need to temper their comments so as to not damage their employers.

The bottom line is that these types of clauses are common and if one were not in place, A & E would not have taken action against Phil.
 
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But Willie still likes to toke..
Excon said:
Holy ****. Are you really not paying attention?

Willie was clean cut prior too, and his look evolved over time.
Just as Phil's has.
Willie was a yuppy before they knew what a yuppy was. My how he has changed.
And Phil was successful prior to this show. Which is talent.
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Since you're all about Phil, when did he stop the behavior he now criticizes ?
 
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Excon said:
Holy ****. Are you really not paying attention?

Willie was clean cut prior too, and his look evolved over time.
Just as Phil's has.

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Willie+Nelson+-+Good+Times+-+LP+RECORD-486808.jpg

OMG! Willie was a yuppy before they knew what a yuppy was. My how he has changed.
D'oh!


And Phil was successful prior to this show. Which is talent. Duh!
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OMG, EX...what year were you born in? You are aware that prior to the late 60s...that Willie's look didn't exist. A lot of people in the music business....along with the rest of the world had long hair and beards when Willie grew his hair long...and his beard.

Ex...I love the way you say, "Duh!"...
 
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Gina said:
I don't think he was suggesting Phil lie, but think twice or even three times before giving an interview that would damage his employer. People do this all the time, even those who are not on prominent cable networks.

I do fund raising work and my name is on materials asking for support. As such, were I to speak out on political issues in my community, I could easily offend those who don't agree who could then rescind their support. So I keep shut. Is my freedom of speech being harmed? I guess that is up for debate, but I can live with it.
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How did Robertson harm A&E?
 
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Mason66 said:
Wow, I don't have a beard either, does that mean I am a yuppie?

Do you know what yuppie means?
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Mason...nawwwwwwwwwwh....now your being silly. What are you...like 12?
 
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Removable Mind said:

You are cracking me up EX... My how you are taking my post so personal...as though it was directed at you.

Oh...and your predictable "WRONG"...is....so predictable.

For those who haven't seen the REAL DUCK DYNASTY YUPPIE FAMILY PLAYING LIKE SWAMP HICKS...see my post #909!
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What makes those pictures representative of the real them?

What do you think is more likely?

Growing up in Louisiana and becoming a yuppie, or a redneck?

All these guys went to college and I bet they did not have beards in college and they probably did not have beards when they met their wives and started their families. When they start to settle into their lives they get more comfortable and grow the beards.

Why do you have a problem with that and why does it make one bit if difference as to who they are?
 
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Mason66 said:
What makes those pictures representative of the real them?

What do you think is more likely?

Growing up in Louisiana and becoming a yuppie, or a redneck?
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Look, these guys...the Robertsons you see in the pictures that I posted...that is the genuine Robertsons. Don't accept it...that's up to you. You wanna believe that they Duck Dynasty look is the true Robertsons...go for it.
 
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apdst said:
How did Robertson harm A&E?
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His being suspended has harmed A&E. Does that count?
 
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jmotivator said:
Yes, I do. I think that sex in a committed marriage is better than sex outside of marriage, hence my statement that being married at 16 is preferable to sleeping around at 16.



Yes, that is what I am saying. I would rather they abstain from sex until marriage and get married in their 20s, but we aren't discussing what I think would be ideal.

There is something to be said for marrying young, though, since the older you get the more locked in your ways you become and the harder it gets to find someone to share your life with. If you marry young, you will develop your personality with the person you will be living the rest of your life with. There is something to said for marrying your high school sweetheart.



Same could be said for getting married at any age.



Your life's true pleasures, and the path to true happiness, reside in the lifelong commitments.
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Please remember you are talking about 50 years ago in Louisiana and not now in Los Angeles.

It was a very different world then.
 
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Gina said:
As was discussed in the OP:


A standard morals clause would cover this kind of thing and if they signed it, and I cannot imagine A & E would have left it out, then it is their responsibility to follow the rules of that contract, a legally binding document. Handlers, do not sign the contract, the talent does and they need to temper their comments so as to not damage their employers.

The bottom line is that these types of clauses are common and if one were not in place, A & E would not have taken action against Phil.
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100% CORRECT

im late to the party and catching up thanks to you! lol ;) no it was thanks to me but yes contracts often have moral or conduct or PR or reflective clauses in them. SO when an employee says controversial things or in this case bigoted and offensive things it can have repercussions.
 
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Removable Mind said:
OMG, EX...what year were you born in? You are aware that prior to the late 60s...that Willie's look didn't exist. A lot of people in the music business....along with the rest of the world had long hair and beards when Willie grew his hair long...and his beard.

Ex...I love the way you say, "Duh!"...
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OMG! You still are not getting it.
His look evolved over time. Just as the Phil's has.

And the look did exist before Willie's.
Or don't you know about Hillbillies?
 
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apdst said:
How did Robertson harm A&E?
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Ummmm...the controversy he sparked???? Obviously A & E considers there is damage to the brand or they wouldn't have suspended him. There is nothing wrong with an employer holding their employee to the terms of their employment. If A & E didn't feel it has the high legal ground, there wouldn't have been an action.
 
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Excon said:
I do not need to include the sins we already know he was talking about.
He was speaking of sins.
It seems that bigoted people have a problem with what sins are.
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With this comparison theory of theirs I wonder if GLAAD is upset Phil Robertson said all gays were drunks and promiscuous. I can't remember all the other sins he listed.
 
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nota bene said:
So can I, and I am working with a strong directive to refer everything to my employer's public info officer. But none of us knows Robertson's contract details. For example, was he required to vet potential interviews? What is A&E's policy on having media-rep "handlers" to "assist" its stars with interviews? Etc.
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Supposedly there was a representative from A&E at the interview and they knew what he said but they didn't get upset until GLAAD threatened to go to the sponsors.

What does that say about A&E?
 
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Removable Mind said:
PAAALLLEEESE, Mason...you have more snap than that. The Duck family...their appearance is a contrived look. If they looked like their true YUPPIE self. Their show wouldn't have lasted a month.
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Again, how long do you think it takes to grow a beard like that?

Obviously they had the beards when the show was pitched to A&E or A&E wouldn't have bought it.
 
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Excon said:
:shrug:
I have no idea.
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Really, you have replied to the same posts over and over again trying to convince calamity she is wrong. If she would just learn to read and comprehend, yes life would be much simpler.
 
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Mason66 said:
Again, how long do you think it takes to grow a beard like that?

Obviously they had the beards when the show was pitched to A&E or A&E wouldn't have bought it.
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Have you read the history behind the the DD show? Or...even about the show that Phil had on a sports channel?
 
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Gina said:
Ummmm...the controversy he sparked???? Obviously A & E considers there is damage to the brand or they wouldn't have suspended him. There is nothing wrong with an employer holding their employee to the terms of their employment. If A & E didn't feel it has the high legal ground, there wouldn't have been an action.
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They should have pulled the Christmas marathon if they did not want to be associated with Phil. All damage is by their own hypocrisy.
 
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