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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    I found Robertson's AND Bashir's comments obnoxious. They both had the right to say them; but the networks also have the right to decide to suspend or fire them for those remarks.

    Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As offensive as it may be to you, when it comes to business, yes it is.
    Doesn't offend me at all... just interesting to see it out there like that. Seems to me morals, ethics, and standards should have a say/play in money grubbing.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    now you can include among your cohort of supporters the westboro church, which has announced its intent to picket A&E. that should make you very proud of such an association
    kind of like A&E being proud of its association with phil robertson
    Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

    Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

    Got it...

    What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    "freedom of speech" isn't just for speech you agree with.
    That is true, but attacking one person in a particularly nasty way vs citing biblical scripture is not the same.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    "freedom of speech" isn't just for speech you agree with.
    There was a time when the old adage applied, "I may disagree with what you have to day, but I will defend your right to say it." Who cares or who should care what a radio or tv talk show host says, or an entertainer for that fact. We either listen or watch because we enjoy the show or we don't. If one does not like what an entertainer said, just stop watching the show. Change the dial or turn off TV and spend some family time together.

    It seems to me ever since this crazy PC talk started, it has been more about muzzling folks. What one says seems to warrant more punishment than any action one does. This is crazy.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I have been wondering if A&E knew of his controversal views..
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    By Scott CollinsDecember 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.

    Anyone looking at the "Duck Dynasty" uproar may wonder why A&E didn't warn Phil Robertson about the dangers of talking too much to reporters.

    But it now looks like they did.

















    Robertson, the long-bearded patriarch of the clan of Louisiana duck-call merchants, is on "hiatus" from filming episodes of the No. 1-rated cable reality show after giving a GQ magazine interview where he made anti-gay remarks and questioned the need for the civil-rights movement. GLAAD and theNAACP, among others, condemned the comments. But thousands of fans - and even Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal - have rushed to his defense, touching off the latest skirmish in the national culture war. Late Thursday, the family said it might not want to continue the show without Phil.

    The scandal has turned into the kind of tempest network executives feared all along. A&E knew of Robertson's controversial views - expounded in videotaped sermons and elsewhere - before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as gay rights and race relations, according to a producer familiar with the situation. Phil and other family members also probably signed contracts containing "morals clauses" in which they promised to, among other things, avoid anything that would embarrass or bring shame to A&E or the brand. Such clauses are standard in the entertainment and sports industries.

    More at: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much - latimes.com




    I am going to guess that I am not the only person on this website who has ever spoken out about things that I feel strongly about, even when I knew that what I was going to say would upset some people and might cost me my job.

    If everyone on this planet refrained from ever saying anything that might offend someone, few things would ever change.

    I may not agree with everything that Phil Robertson has said, but I defend his right to say whatever he wants to say.




    "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Then using your logic the intolerance and hate spewed by those who disagree with and oppose Robertson's values are your values. Your side's opinions are to be held sacred but his are inconsequential since they don't agree with yours. So much for tolerance unless its others being tolerant of the views on your side. And if they aren't they're vile and offensive.

    Freedom of speech and tolerance OK as long as it confirms your side's point of view.

    Got it...

    What's that called.... oh yes, hypocritical. You must be so proud.
    i am not ashamed to point out phil robertson's intolerant positions
    it would be hypocritical to endorse equal rights for all but to also accept phil robertson's objection to homosexual behavior

    you, on the other hand, stand with westboro baptist church in support of phil robertson's intolerance of those from the gay community. your refusal to accept equal rights for all is duly noted
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I am going to guess that I am not the only person on this website who has ever spoken out about things that I feel strongly about, even when I knew that what I was going to say would upset some people and might cost me my job.

    If everyone on this planet refrained from ever saying anything that might offend someone, few things would ever change.

    I may not agree with everything that Phil Robertson has said, but I defend his right to say whatever he wants to say.




    "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
    ~ Tommy Smothers

    who the hell has objected to phil robertson having a right to express his personal views, no matter how bigoted they might be?
    i believe that we all agree that he has that first amendment right of free speech. but he also deserves to sustain the consequences of his bigoted statements
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're suggesting he should have lied?
    I thought about this one question for a bit and just had a good laugh and now wish to answer it.

    There are quite a few who believe in the following- "Diplomacy is saying 'nice doggy' while reaching for a rock." The saying is attributed to several folks, Ben Franklin is one. is ol' Ben telling us to lie????

    I has always thought my mom had it about right- if ya can't say something nice then shut the hell up. (okie woman, she didn't sugar coat her diplomacy)

    Now if Phil had kept is comments focused on himself and his earlier days of being a sinning little monkey, if he had just said it is for God to judge and because He gave us freewill each of us must decide our own path, some of us seek His Word and some don't....

    I'd admire the hairy dude.

    So my answer is he shouldn't lie, he forgot in a bit of hubris.

    He should remember THE WORD in more than just the parts that admonish... Judge not and all that sort of thing...

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    who the hell has objected to phil robertson having a right to express his personal views, no matter how bigoted they might be?
    i believe that we all agree that he has that first amendment right of free speech. but he also deserves to sustain the consequences of his bigoted statements



    I totally agree that everyone has to be ready to take the consequences when they say things that a lot of people disagree with.

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