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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    I took some heat from some here because I said the show has no appeal to me and is indicative of the IDIOCRACY trend in America.

    However, I do not approve of punishing somebody for stating their views as this man did in an interview. That is wrong. Now I know every time a liberal says something offensive - Keith Olbermann for example - the apologists for the far right tell us over and over and over and over again how nobody has a RIGHT to be on TV or radio and they can be fired or disciplined for their comments and it is perfectly legal and fine to do so.

    Now this duck situation has become a right wing cause celebre and the shoe is on the other foot. Interesting to see how things change depending on ones perspective for some.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are choosing to see that which is not there or, you are inflating and conflating to come to such an opinion.
    Huh? The mainstream Right has not been able to shut up about the horror of society accepting Gays since at least 2004 when the first judge approved Same Sex Marriage.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You think it's right that they can fire you for practicing your religion?
    No one is being fired for "practicing" their religion. They are being fired for verbally attacking a class of people.

    Is hiding behind religion the new excuse Christians now use to cover their gay bashing? What stops someone from using religion to bash Jews and Muslims or anyone else not accepting Christ...or is that OK, since its "practicing your religion"?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're suggesting he should have lied?

    I think the issue could have been avoided if the interviewer hadn't set him up. He HAD to know how Robertsin was going to answer the question and if he did, he shouldn't have asked the question.

    The Libbos might want to temper their outrage. The Duck Dynasty vote has already gotten one United States congressman elected. It would suck for the Libbos if every single member of theDuck block voted against a Democrat, because of the way the Libbos treated Phil Robertson.

    Making a big deal out of this is a bad business decision for A&E and a bad political move for the Libbos.

    In the first season of the show A&E used to insert bleeps into the show to make it appear like the Robertson's were cursing when they weren't.

    The problem was that A&E crafted "Duck Dynasty" to be a show where Americans tuned in to laugh at some backwards yokels. What they ended up with was a show where millions of Americans admired the Robertson's.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    assuming A&E wasn't stupid enough to make them sign a no compete clause or that they did not retain rights.

    I somehow suspect the lawyers weren't that careless on what amounts to routine business practices for a TV network.

    That would put real pressure on the Robertsons. Without A&E they would only have their $400 million duck call business to fall back on.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    No, I am saying that most Christians manage to say that because they believe the Bible to be the inerrant word of God, they believe Homosexuality is a sin, yet they don't then go on to compare it to beastality.
    Except that he was comparing all sexual sins to bestiality. I think he is probably right in that there is a connection, but whether you think that is wrong is another story...

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No one is being fired for "practicing" their religion. They are being fired for verbally attacking a class of people.

    Is hiding behind religion the new excuse Christians now use to cover their gay bashing? What stops someone from using religion to bash Jews and Muslims or anyone else not accepting Christ...or is that OK, since its "practicing your religion"?
    Muslims KILL Gays...splain that.

    You're doing a pretty ****ing good job of VERBALLY ATTACKING A CLASS OF PEOPLE yourself, Jane.

    Bigot...how does it feel?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If you punish someone for expressing an opinion, you are violating their first amendment right to free speech. That violation isn't always enforceable through law, though. There is nothing dishonest about that.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You think it's right that they can fire you for practicing your religion?
    He was not practicing his religion, he was talking about his religious beliefs. Those comments had or have the potential to negatively effect the company that was/is paying him.


    Companies have all sorts of rules regarding employment. From appearance clauses, moral clauses etc. in the case of on air talent it is generally a standard clause regarding what they do or say in public
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I didn't say once that they can not fire you. Not once. The closest I said is "doesn't automatically grant them the right to fire you." Which it doesn't, in the sense that companies are always legally protected in doing so.
    That's fine, Mac. I'll accept you didn't mean what your words seemed to mean. Consider my comment directed at others, then; as I said at the time, I wasn't particularly picking on you, your comment just happened to be the one I responded to.

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