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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Incorrect.


    Also incorrect. VERY incorrect. Like, fractally incorrect.
    It's not incorrect, you have the right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. It may not always be sensible to do so, but you have it.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's not incorrect, you have the right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. It may not always be sensible to do so, but you have it.
    You have the right to freedom of speech without government sanction. What you do not have is freedom from criticism or freedom from consequence. Your employer is under no Constitutional mandate to maintain association with you if the employer feels your speech will have a negative impact on the company.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    From what I've read, he didn't compare the two to each other, simply stated he thought they were both sins...and speaking of controversial issues at work doesn't automatically grant them the right to fire you.
    The quote is in this thread several times. He said start with homosexuality and go from there, then listed bestiality. Its a comparison any way you slice it. He then went on to paraphrase a verse from Romans, but that verse doesn't mention bestiality, it was merely a list of sins common in Roman society that Paul was telling them they needed God's grace to be forgiven for. There is no way to look at his comment, especially if you have any knowledge of scripture at all (which Phil obviously does), and not read it as he was making that comparison.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You have the right to freedom of speech without government sanction. What you do not have is freedom from criticism or freedom from consequence. Your employer is under no Constitutional mandate to maintain association with you if the employer feels your speech will have a negative impact on the company.
    Say what you will, the man was right about vaginas. If that had been the only thing he'd said, it'd be just laughs.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Say what you will, the man was right about vaginas. If that had been the only thing he'd said, it'd be just laughs.
    You're right. I think that if he hadn't have talked about the whole "morphing out to beastiality" thing, he likely would have been fine.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The quote is in this thread several times. He said start with homosexuality and go from there, then listed bestiality.
    "morphs into" that and sleeping around.

    a verse from Romans,
    Which

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You have the right to freedom of speech without government sanction. What you do not have is freedom from criticism or freedom from consequence. Your employer is under no Constitutional mandate to maintain association with you if the employer feels your speech will have a negative impact on the company.
    That's very true, and I have not said that A&E couldn't do what they've done. However, their right to do what they've done doesn't mean they didn't do it in response to him excercising his freedom to express his opinion...aka freedom of speech.
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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Like who?
    Well Ed Shultz as a most recent.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You're right. I think that if he hadn't have talked about the whole "morphing out to beastiality" thing, he likely would have been fine.
    Happy black folk and white trash aside.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You have the right to freedom of speech without government sanction. What you do not have is freedom from criticism or freedom from consequence. Your employer is under no Constitutional mandate to maintain association with you if the employer feels your speech will have a negative impact on the company.
    Wait second here I kinda disagree here. If one works for widget factory x making widgets. And gets interviewed stating an opinion contrary to their employers POV on what ever issue they should have protections. After it does not affect the product. In the ducks case image is the product. And what the duck did can impact the product

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