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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    but he didn't--Present Moment Awareness
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    No, if he had expressed a favorable opinion of homosexuals and was then suspended for doing so.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, if he had expressed a favorable opinion of homosexuals and was then suspended for doing so.
    Yay what ifs. What if he had done that on Pat Robinson's network

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, if he had expressed a favorable opinion of homosexuals and was then suspended for doing so.
    That wouldn't particularly make much sense.

    You're also misconstruing the argument (at least my argument). I'm not speaking in favor of or against Mr. Duck's suspension. I literally could not care less. I am arguing about this strictly as a First Amendment free speech issue, which it is not.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The whole issue could have been
    avoided had Phil simply had the common decency to measure his words when giving an interview just like anyone else would.
    He said NOTHING indecent and he and his family could teach the rest of America ( especially the Democrats ) a thing or two about decency.

    But, I say to all you Prog's this is definately a fight worth fighting.

    Yes, continue to take the side of the fringe minority in this issue as you isolate the vast majority of Americans who currently stand behing the Robertsons family.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm...no. That is not all that matters.



    Not having to measure your speech in order to not offend others is why there is a freedom of speech to begin with. With regard to employers, there is still freedom of speech unless it's specifically waived by mutual agreement.
    What fantasy world do you live in? Try not measuring your words on any controversial issue at work and see what happens to you. Next time you are in the office get in front of everyone and tell them why you think homosexuality is comparable to bestiality. See if you still have a job after that one.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That wouldn't particularly make much sense.
    Why, because it wouldn't offend you?

    You're also misconstruing the argument (at least my argument). I'm not speaking in favor of or against Mr. Duck's suspension. I literally could not care less. I am arguing about this strictly as a First Amendment free speech issue, which it is not.
    Any time you are punished for expressing an opinion, it's a First Amendment free speech issue....even if the the first amendment doesn't offer a specifically prevent it.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    He said NOTHING indecent and he and his family could teach the rest of America ( especially the Democrats ) a thing or two about decency.

    But, I say to all you Prog's this is definately a fight worth fighting.

    Yes, continue to take the side of the fringe minority in this issue as you isolate the vast majority of Americans who currently stand behing the Robertsons family.
    The vast majority of the American people consider homosexuals to be on par with people who have sex with animals? :citation needed:
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why, because it wouldn't offend you?

    Any time you are punished for expressing an opinion, it's a First Amendment free speech issue....even if the the first amendment doesn't offer a specifically prevent it.
    Incorrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    With regard to employers, there is still freedom of speech unless it's specifically waived by mutual agreement.
    Also incorrect. VERY incorrect. Like, fractally incorrect.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    He said NOTHING indecent and he and his family could teach the rest of America ( especially the Democrats ) a thing or two about decency.

    But, I say to all you Prog's this is definately a fight worth fighting.

    Yes, continue to take the side of the fringe minority in this issue as you isolate the vast majority of Americans who currently stand behing the Robertsons family.
    I am not saying the Robertsons are not good people. I think Phil is a nice man and a good person. However, I think the vast majority of Americans believe that comparing homosexuality to bestiality is indecent. I also think the vast majority of Americans believe that to imply that blacks in the south were happy under Jim Crow is offensive. If don't agree then simply make such comparisons in mixed company and see what happens.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What fantasy world do you live in? Try not measuring your words on any controversial issue at work and see what happens to you. Next time you are in the office get in front of everyone and tell them why you think homosexuality is comparable to bestiality. See if you still have a job after that one.
    From what I've read, he didn't compare the two to each other, simply stated he thought they were both sins...and speaking of controversial issues at work doesn't automatically grant them the right to fire you.
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