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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    once again I am not the topic
    And yet your assertions about the topic are wrong. Go figure.
    And neither am I. So what do you call the following lie?
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    good move backing off the lie you posted
    And yet I posted no lie.

    The constant ignoring of the facts makes your postings wrong each and every time.

    Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
    You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
    He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
    He said they were sins. That is all.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So...stop acting like Robertson committed a crime. He has an opinion; he expressed it; you don't like it; welcome to the real world.

    Like it, or not, not everyone is going to be ok with homosexuality. Pressuring people to remain silent about their negative views of homosexuality is no different than pressuring gays to remain silent about being gay.
    He did something I cannot do in my professional life. Were I to do it, there would be small chance of recovery for me. He's lucky.

    Freedom of speech, comes with consequences. Live with that. He signed a contract that in all likelihood includes a clause that covers issues like this. If it did not, A & E couldn't have suspended him without fear of legal reprisal. So Phil suffered the consequences of his actions. Nothing wrong with that.

    Yes is it different. Phil expressed his beliefs. When gays are forced to remain silent about being gay, it's denying who they are, not a belief. Two different concepts.

    And apparently, Phil does believe in tolerance according to the A & E statement released today. In part:

    But Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man's views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about family … a family that America has come to love. As you might have seen in many episodes, they come together to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness. These are three values that we at A+E Networks also feel strongly about.
    We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company and the values found in Duck Dynasty. These PSAs will air across our entire portfolio.

    In addition, an A&E source says the family and the network are going to work together to promote tolerance.
    So, I guess he's had a change of heart.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And yet your assertions about the topic are wrong. Go figure.
    And neither am I. So what do you call the following lie?
    And yet I posted no lie.

    The constant ignoring of the facts makes your postings wrong each and every time.

    Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
    You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
    He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
    He said they were sins. That is all.
    weird i dont see one assertion in there, another dodge
    facts destroy your post again

    i will ask you again, please post and quote my assertions that are factually wrong we cant wait to read them
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Yeah, your's. You agreed already.
    thats what i thought you got nothing facts defeat your post again, thanks for playing

    facts:
    he made a comparison between homosexuality and bestiality
    he equated homosexuality and bestiality

    these facts will never change
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    he was justly punished thats all they had to do per their opinion of his behavior
    A&E can do whatever they want. And, they will need to live with the consequences. It looks to me like they caved to the Christian Coalition and Fox News Crowd. We'll see if anyone can up the ante and put more pressure on them or Phil's band of money-making duck lovers.

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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    weird i dont see one assertion in there, another dodge
    facts destroy your post again

    i will ask you again, please post and quote my assertions that are factually wrong we cant wait to read them
    The facts prove you wrong, as shown.
    Nothing more needs to be said.
    So stop dodging and admit you were wrong when you assumed.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    1.)A&E can do whatever they want.
    2.) And, they will need to live with the consequences.
    3.) It looks to me like they caved to the Christian Coalition and Fox News Crowd.
    4.) We'll see if anyone can up the ante and put more pressure on them or Phil's band of money-making duck lovers.
    1.) well within reason
    2.) this is true
    3.) maybe but i dont see why suspension isnt good enough, when a person does something wrong they get punished thats what happened. Also many Christians are not like phil at all. Only some of them are bigots.
    4.) my guess is he is now on probation and we wont be hearing anymore bigotry from him
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The facts prove you wrong, as shown.
    Nothing more needs to be said.
    So stop dodging and admit you were wrong when you assumed.
    thats what i thought you got nothing and cant post any assertions

    good move backing off the lie you posted

    again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

    FACTS:

    no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
    no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

    your two statements are wrong.
    "Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
    "and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

    PROOF:


    Comparison
    : the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
    Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

    : to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
    Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

    Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

    one shred of factual evidence you cant do it
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats what i thought you got nothing and cant post any assertions

    good move backing off the lie you posted

    again simply provide any FACTS you have to support your false claims, even ONE will do

    FACTS:

    no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
    no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

    your two statements are wrong.
    "Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
    "and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

    PROOF:


    Comparison
    : the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar ]or in the same category
    Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

    : to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
    Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

    Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up

    one shred of factual evidence you cant do it


    Just more denial and deflection.
    Your assertions were wrong, as shown.
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    Re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    A&E caves for using shows in the can they already paid for ?

    LOL !!

    Hey thats some "suspension".

    Face it, the fringe minority has to eat crow and so does A & E.

    Turns out the silent majority in this Country has no issue with Phils remarks.

    No matter how much groups like GLAAD try, they cant define down their lifestyle by attacking a mans faith.

    Dont get me wrong, I hope groups like GLAAD shift it into high gear.
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