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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Seriously? They even have DD characters offered as Chia Pets.

No. Never heard a word about them. But, then again I don't have broadcast television, just the internet--and, my wife's idea of a reality TV is that Top Chef show. Me. I don;t watch any of that reality crap...but I do sort of like Lillyhammer.



That being said, I did watch a few Dusk Dynasty episodes the other day. It's a pretty good show--A+ for reality, IMO.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Censorship is also being punished for saying what you say.
Responding to what is said is not the same as punishing those that say it.




A&E Warned Robertson to watch his mouth and he ignored that warning.

I have zero sympathy for the guy, he has shown with his comments that he's a hater.He has brought this on himself.

Here's what got Phil Robertson in trouble:http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-what-youre-really-defending-2013-12

Robertson is out of touch with most American's attitudes about a number of things.
 
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Uhm, yeah, that's part if it...not all of it.

Oh that is the biggie, throw in practice ALL the parts, not just a select few. Ol' Phil seemed quite selective, and apparently he has done this on more than one occasion, just the first time for so large an audience.

Preach about YOUR OWN sin, not others... someone who has sinned as much as he should just stick to telling his story and not look into the lives of others.

More than enough material there....
 
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Just because you are saying something from the bible does not mean you are proselytizing. if you are talking to other Christians you are not trying to convert anyone, they are already converted

I beleive it's his intent to spread the word of god....his life is basically dedicated to that. That's proselytizing.
 
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What seems to be missing from this discussion, an omission not by atheists but especially by Christians, is the fact that Phil acted out of love, love for his fellow beings. "He has a funny way of showing it", you say?
As a Christian, you are called to preach to Gospel, to speak the truth, to tell it to those who are still lost, so that they too will have eternal life.
So his dilemma is this. Should he speak for the lost, to the lost, preaching repentance and biblical truth, or should he just look the other way, like so many do, and let them go straight to hell?
Which is more loving, more compassionate?
A good comparison for those who don't believe is this.
If you see a kid by the side of the road, ready to cross, and you know the kid will be run over, would you stop the kid and guide it to a crosswalk so that the little one will reach the other side, or would you just let the kid go?
 
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Oh that is the biggie, throw in practice ALL the parts, not just a select few. Ol' Phil seemed quite selective, and apparently he has done this on more than one occasion, just the first time for so large an audience.

Preach about YOUR OWN sin, not others... someone who has sinned as much as he should just stick to telling his story and not look into the lives of others.

More than enough material there....

From what I saw, he was speaking about sin, period. His or someone elses matters not.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Again, where were your cries of "Censorship" when Martin Brashir was being drummed off MSNBC?

I don't remember having participated in any thread about Martin Bashir, and while I think what he said was very offensive...he shouldn't have been fired for it. In fact, if I remember right, he resigned...he wasn't fired.
 
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I think A&E already bent over backwards here by only suspending him. It's pretty clear they are hoping it blows over. Had the moron simply stated a minimalist comment about him not agreeing with the gay lifestyle because it is a sin--and, also left alone that weird the Japanese have no Jesus and Blacks never sang the Blues until after MLK stirred em all up thang--he would have been back on the set next season.

Well, he's obviously not a moron, despite his having a different opinion on some things than do you. Whether or not "A&E has bent over backwards for him" or not is, again, simply a guess on your part. I'll say this though, he'll be fine without A&E. A&E stands to lose a lot more than Phil.
 
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And the cries of "censorship" for that PR woman who just got fired for her offensive tweet? where are they?

Former IAC PR Director Justine Sacco Speaks Out About The Tweet That Got Her Fired - SFGate

Yeah ripping Black people by poking fun at AIDS in Africa as the Public Relations person for a popular video channel...not such a bright idea.

That Twitter...it's like holding a loaded gun and pointing it right at your own head.
 
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Anyone in the USA who thinks that they can say whatever they want to say and there will be no response or negative replies is living in a dream world.

The man said what he wanted to say, now he's paying a price for that.

Which doesn't change the fact that he was censored by "Arts&Entertainment".
 
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Well, he's obviously not a moron, despite his having a different opinion on some things than do you. Whether or not "A&E has bent over backwards for him" or not is, again, simply a guess on your part. I'll say this though, he'll be fine without A&E. A&E stands to lose a lot more than Phil.
I suspect he took one too many shots to the head while at LSU. But, hey, that's just my opinion. I have a hard time respecting anyone who takes the Bible literally and speaks ill of those who don't take those myths too serious.

A&E may or may not care about alienating the rednecks. My guess is they have employees by the hundred who are neither Christian nor homophobic.
 
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Which doesn't change the fact that he was censored by "Arts&Entertainment".

He was not "censored". He can go out today and say what he wants. A7E is not going to try to stop him. However, A&E has every right to distance themselves from him.
 
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I don't remember having participated in any thread about Martin Bashir, and while I think what he said was very offensive...he shouldn't have been fired for it. In fact, if I remember right, he resigned...he wasn't fired.

Resigned under pressure. ANd, the poutrage from the Right over his comments was epic. They made GLAAD's complaints about Phil look like whispers of protestation coming from a fringe minority...which of course is all they are. Unless--Do you buy into the gay-agenda conspiracy?
 
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I beleive it's his intent to spread the word of god....his life is basically dedicated to that. That's proselytizing.

He is not a priest, or a pastor, he is on a reality TV show, acting like a redneck hillbilly. He is not proselytizing when he is on that show, nor do I expect in his other business's. He is not dedicated to spreading the word of god.
 
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And you agree to allow them to do that when you sign up.



Censorship is also punishing someone for what was said. And, if there were such clauses in his contract, oh well for Phil.




Anyone who violates their employment contract or does things that their employer warns them not to do shouldn't be surprised when they lose their job.It's the way life works.

Phil Robertson made this happen with his mouth.




I have zero sympathy for him.
 
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In the end A&E will suffer for their intolerance and bigotry.

Sorry Digs...but being intolerant of intolerance is neither intolerance nor bigotry.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Anyone who violates their employment contract or does things that their employer warns them not to do shouldn't be surprised when they lose their job.It's the way life works.

Phil Robertson made this happen with his mouth.




I have zero sympathy for him.

I don't have any sympathy for him either, he makes his own decisions. I do find it ironic, though, that A&E finds it necessary to censor views of it's reality tv star.
 
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He is not a priest, or a pastor, he is on a reality TV show, acting like a redneck hillbilly. He is not proselytizing when he is on that show, nor do I expect in his other business's. He is not dedicated to spreading the word of god.

That requirement is not limited to priests or pastors...it's a requirement of all adherents. Now, you can say he's not a priest or a pastor....but it appears to me that he is, regardless of any title you deem as "qualifying".

Home - I am Second
 
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I don't have any sympathy for him either, he makes his own decisions. I do find it ironic, though, that A&E finds it necessary to censor views of it's reality tv star.

A&E is a brand
likely few LGBT viewers of the duck dynasty program
would be surprised if there are many black viewers
but the brand, and what it stands for has to be protected from wingnut ravings by one of its employees
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E is a brand
likely few LGBT viewers of the duck dynasty program
would be surprised if there are many black viewers
but the brand, and what it stands for has to be protected from wingnut ravings by one of its employees


Quite

I expect A&E has a lot of viewers on it other shows that might have taken offence, or managers of companies that advertise on A&E that took offence to what was said and told A&E that we not going to watch A&E or advertise on A&E anymore if that guy is on it
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

That requirement is not limited to priests or pastors...it's a requirement of all adherents. Now, you can say he's not a priest or a pastor....but it appears to me that he is, regardless of any title you deem as "qualifying".

Home - I am Second

The point I was making is that he has not dedicated his life to spread the word of god
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

A&E is a brand
likely few LGBT viewers of the duck dynasty program
would be surprised if there are many black viewers
but the brand, and what it stands for has to be protected from wingnut ravings by one of its employees

Well, from what I understand, Duck Dynasty is about the only show it has that has ratings....so, what does A&E stand for?
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

The point I was making is that he has not dedicated his life to spread the word of god

It appears to me that he has. Regardless, the point is irrelevant...as there is a duty of all followers of Christianity to spread the word of god, not just Priests and Pastors.
 
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I have been wondering if A&E knew of his controversal views...
By Scott CollinsDecember 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.

Anyone looking at the "Duck Dynasty" uproar may wonder why A&E didn't warn Phil Robertson about the dangers of talking too much to reporters.

But it now looks like they did.

Robertson, the long-bearded patriarch of the clan of Louisiana duck-call merchants, is on "hiatus" from filming episodes of the No. 1-rated cable reality show after giving a GQ magazine interview where he made anti-gay remarks and questioned the need for the civil-rights movement. GLAAD and theNAACP, among others, condemned the comments. But thousands of fans - and even Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal - have rushed to his defense, touching off the latest skirmish in the national culture war. Late Thursday, the family said it might not want to continue the show without Phil.

The scandal has turned into the kind of tempest network executives feared all along. A&E knew of Robertson's controversial views - expounded in videotaped sermons and elsewhere - before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as gay rights and race relations, according to a producer familiar with the situation. Phil and other family members also probably signed contracts containing "morals clauses" in which they promised to, among other things, avoid anything that would embarrass or bring shame to A&E or the brand. Such clauses are standard in the entertainment and sports industries.

More at: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much - latimes.com




OK so the question is then, why did A&E set up the interview with a magazine like GQ for Phil Robertson. They are polar opposites. I am sure there were representatives from A&E on set during the interview so why was nothing said until it was released in the actual magazine.

The reason is because A&E had no problem with what he said until GLAAD told them they did.

That makes A&Es position very weak.
 
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