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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Not only the govt censors....it's just the govt that is in violation of the constitution when they do.
    That is all that matters with freedom of speech. You don't have free speech protections in regard to your employer, your friends, the general public or for that matter your spouse. That is why its always a good idea to measure your words when talking about something that is controversial so that you avoid offending others. The government won't prevent a guy from calling his girlfriend a common street whore, but that doesn't mean he won't face consequences for doing so.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson and family lash back at A&E | Mail Online

    Apparently A&E had one of their people sitting there during the entire interview. Poor innocent A&E, knew what was said from the start.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Whether they had a right to do it, or not, is irrelevant to the fact that they have censored him for practicing his right to free speech.
    That is ridiculous. Do you have a right to a TV Show? Do you have a right to work for your employer? If not he is not being censored. In fact, even if you have a right to a TV Show, he would not be being censored because if he was censored, we would have never heard the quote.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    We don't know what their contractual obligations were, or what escape clauses existed. Let's not shift the conversation to legalese. I highly doubt that A&E would can the guy without having their i's dotted and t's crossed.
    I imagine there was such a clause, I imagine that it was probably well explained to the duck clan...regardless, A&E has the choice in enforcing the claus or not. Whether or not the clause existed, A&E still censored him, and I would argue if they had done it for expressing the opposing opinion...all you guys would be singing a far different tune. See, it seems most are only concerned about free speech being protected when it is speech they agree with, and the great majority of you are proving that correct.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is ridiculous. Do you have a right to a TV Show? Do you have a right to work for your employer? If not he is not being censored. In fact, even if you have a right to a TV Show, he would not be being censored because if he was censored, we would have never heard the quote.
    Censorship is not only censorship when it's illegal or unconstitutional and whether or not they had the right to do it is also irrelevant. They did do it, they censored him. That simple.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I imagine there was such a clause, I imagine that it was probably well explained to the duck clan...regardless, A&E has the choice in enforcing the claus or not. Whether or not the clause existed, A&E still censored him, and I would argue if they had done it for expressing the opposing opinion...all you guys would be singing a far different tune. See, it seems most are only concerned about free speech being protected when it is speech they agree with, and the great majority of you are proving that correct.
    Argument By Hypothesis is fun.

    What would the "opposing opinion" be? Vilifying straight people?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is all that matters with freedom of speech.
    Uhm...no. That is not all that matters.

    You don't have free speech protections in regard to your employer, your friends, the general public or for that matter your spouse. That is why its always a good idea to measure your words when talking about something that is controversial so that you avoid offending others. The government won't prevent a guy from calling his girlfriend a common street whore, but that doesn't mean he won't face consequences for doing so.
    Not having to measure your speech in order to not offend others is why there is a freedom of speech to begin with. With regard to employers, there is still freedom of speech unless it's specifically waived by mutual agreement.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Next thing yanno some people will be calling for the fairness doctrine back

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Argument By Hypothesis is fun.

    What would the "opposing opinion" be? Vilifying straight people?
    No, if he had expressed a favorable opinion of homosexuals and was then suspended for doing so.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Censorship is the conservative bailiwick, going back to Josephy McCarthy and faux outrage over commies in Hollywood..
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