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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A & E has distanced the network from his comments by suspending him. Keeping him in the show without penalty, would be a continuing association.

    All the damage? There would be no damage but for the comments of Phil.
    He is still in the show. He will be in the show in the next season.

    If less viewers is the damage it is directly a result of A&E suspending him.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Calamity...I've been following along with your posts. Phil Robertson is a bigot and racist. And he's all of the other things that you've described with regard to his religious fanaticism. If what Phil Robertson is claiming to represent his beliefs are based on tenet in his religion...and other within his religion aren't speaking out against his comments...then they are as bigoted and racist as he is.
    That's about as true as it gets.

    And as I posted, the whole family imagine of being "swamp hicks" is a sham. The whole "cotton pickin -poor white trash" gig is a sham.

    The REALITY SHOW isn't a reality...it's about a made up set of characters, which aren't in fact swamp hicks, that attract a lot of viewers, which makes the network a lot of money.

    Phil pissed in his peanut butter. Now the network is pissed and rightfully so. The network pays a lot of money to the Robertson to pretend to be as they're portrayed on the show.
    yep...just like a lot of other "characters" whose projected images are designed to appeal to the Far Right.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A & E has distanced the network from his comments by suspending him. Keeping him in the show without penalty, would be a continuing association.

    All the damage? There would be no damage but for the comments of Phil.
    A&E has had more negative backlash to their decision than positive. Glaad has had much too.

    Do you honestly think A&E is not going to reverse itself on this like the Cracker Barrel did??
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    These are the very important words you are ignoring "with my eyes"

    You cannot call him a liar for what he saw or didn't see at 8 years of age.
    Uh, Phil not adjusting his thoughts from age-8 to include the reality of life as a Black person under Jim Crow, something I am sure was shown to him repeatedly during the 50 years since he was picking cotton as "white trash", sure is hard to explain away. No?

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    1.)Your mistake.
    2.)You are late to the game.
    3.) First of all I already said he stated they were sins. I do not need to say that is the only comparison made.
    4.) hich is also not the dispute being discussed. Which I am sure you know, which would make your assertion of that which is not being argued, dishonest.
    So get up to date or push on.
    5.) He did not make any direct comparison, as in equate, homosexual behavior to the behavior of bestiality.
    6.) Any such assertion of such a comparison is false and not in accord with the facts.
    7.)Which is what is being argued.
    8.) Which is not simply putting them in the same category of sin.

    9.)So it is you who are proven wrong in your assumption of what was being said
    10.), and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors. Is that what you are asserting?
    your post changed nothing
    your statment was and is still 100% factually wrong and you add a new 100% factually wrong statement in your quoted post above.

    1.) nope the only mistake was yours and facts and links prove that
    2.) meaningless to the accuracy of my statements and the proven wrong falsehood of yours.
    3.) see #2
    4.) see #2
    5.) see #2
    6.) see #2
    7.) see #2
    8.) see #2

    9.) nothing i said was proven wrong, not one thing, nor did i make any assumptions what so ever that was you
    10.) he did in fact equate them, again the definition of the word equate factually proves that
    11.) no i was not i simply said he made a compassion between the two which he factually did but as you can see in 10 even though i didnt assert that he factually did equate them.

    equate
    : to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
    Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

    once again FACTS and a LINK prove your statement wrong, your mistake AGAIN

    let me know when you have ANY FACTS at all even ONE fact that proves he did not make a compassion between them and equate them because the fact remains he did.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's about as true as it gets.


    yep...just like a lot of other "characters" whose projected images are designed to appeal to the Far Right.

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    He also appeals to kids.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Uh, Phil not adjusting his thoughts from age-8 to include the reality of life as a Black person under Jim Crow, something I am sure was shown to him repeatedly during the 50 years since he was picking cotton as "white trash", sure is hard to explain away. No?
    He explained what he SAW. How can 50 years change what he SAW.

    Is this a hard concept for you. Think back to when you were 8, did you see everything for how it was or how you understood it?

    You can't take away his memories from him nor can you call him a liar for what he remembers.

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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    He is still in the show. He will be in the show in the next season.

    If less viewers is the damage it is directly a result of A&E suspending him.
    Their concern is for their entire brand. If the network didn't suspend him, that is tacit endorsement of his comments and could cause a loss of overall viewership, to programs unrelated to Duck Dynasty. The loss of viewers to that show, would be limited since they have an audience and viewers will still tune in.

    Again, none of this would be an issue if not for Phil.
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Their concern is for their entire brand. If the network didn't suspend him, that is tacit endorsement of his comments and could cause a loss of overall viewership, to programs unrelated to Duck Dynasty. The loss of viewers to that show, would be limited since they have an audience and viewers will still tune in.

    Again, none of this would be an issue if not for Phil.

    100% correct again and also not to mention, only A&E gets to decide what is damaging

    if there ratings drop 80% they can still fill its damaging if people associate them with bigoted comments

    its all about what the contract says and what clause they are working off of
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    re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    He explained what he SAW. How can 50 years change what he SAW.

    Is this a hard concept for you. Think back to when you were 8, did you see everything for how it was or how you understood it?

    You can't take away his memories from him nor can you call him a liar for what he remembers.
    He didn't adjust his comments in any way to reflect even the remotest indication that what he saw was not reality. Instead he basically said that what he saw and heard was contrary to the reality, spinning it as if the reality was just liberal hogwash and that blacks, as far as he could see, were happy picking cotton and singing during Jim Crow.

    It's crap. It's like a German Holocaust denier saying that from what he could see in his small village, the Jews were treated nicely.

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