• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage[W:780]

Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
Farm subsidies..... The same subsidies afforded to farmers are being extended to the inner cities.....

I got news for you - most farmers want NONE of that **** - all those subsidies do is turn farms into grain and dairy slaves to the government.... Horrible stuff.
Click to expand...

hows that change anything?

oh thats right it doesnt lol
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
Farm subsidies..... The same subsidies afforded to farmers are being extended to the inner cities.....

I got news for you - most farmers want NONE of that **** - all those subsidies do is turn farms into grain and dairy slaves to the government.... Horrible stuff.
Click to expand...

Take it to a different thread, dude. This one isn't on farm subsidies. I was just pointing out that Utah isn't giving money to the federal govt without being amply rewarded.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

scatt said:
Democrat is just another name for nothing left to take.
Click to expand...

short on material scatt?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

does it matter?
scatt said:
Do you think the legislation is exactly the same in both states?
Click to expand...
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

wolfsgirl said:
A federal judge issues a cease order when judge Shelby made his ruling. It has not been overturned.
Click to expand...

If true (I haven't read anything on it today) that order will be overturned because a judge is stepping over the line doing it....

Any judge that leaves their politics at home will overturn that in 2 seconds...

The states case is absolutely stronger than the vagueness of the Fourteenth Amendment.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
If true (I haven't read anything on it today) that order will be overturned because a judge is stepping over the line doing it....

Any judge that leaves their politics at home will overturn that in 2 seconds...

The states case is absolutely stronger than the vagueness of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Click to expand...

the state has no case just like in the other cases where these violations of rights failed
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

paddymcdougall said:
Take it to a different thread, dude. This one isn't on farm subsidies. I was just pointing out that Utah isn't giving money to the federal govt without being amply rewarded.
Click to expand...

Got any citations?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
Got any citations?
Click to expand...

this is what we have been asking you for pages but you have none
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

paddymcdougall said:
Seriously? read up on your history of Utah around the time they were trying to keep polygamy... .
Click to expand...

I think you're talking about Warren Jeffs and his polygamous molestation pyramid scheme....
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
the Fourteenth Amendment.
Click to expand...

The 14th will be at the crux of landmark decisions this year by the SCOTUS.
We've already seen a split-decision on the Voting Rights Act, with the GOP/TEA just getting started.
Immigration and "anchor" babies are front and center, waiting for the GOP/TEA House to ignore it for another year .
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

NIMBY said:
The 14th will be at the crux of landmark decisions this year by the SCOTUS.
We've already seen a split-decision on the Voting Rights Act, with the GOP/TEA just getting started.
Immigration and "anchor" babies are front and center, waiting for the GOP/TEA House to ignore it for another year .
Click to expand...

You mean having to show an ID to vote?

Haha..... The Fourteenth Amendment is such a vague piece of ****....

That hose **** should be repealed because the damn amendment - and the "clauses" associated to them mean nothing. The simple fact clauses or addendums need to be added shows how ****ing vague the Amendment is in the first place.

If the Fourteenth Amendment justifies gay marriage then it justifies me stealing a rich mans car -- That's the ****ing problem and many have figured that **** out by stealing foreclosed homes.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

scatt said:
Because those marriages are not legal during the stay, sure. Which means, the other ones are not either.
Click to expand...

You really need to inform yourself before such comments. The same exact thing happened in CA and guess what? Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal = walker's decision was upheld. In this case, the judge's ruling was on firm grounds and the SC will either again refuse the appeal, and marriage will soon be legal in utah again, or the SC will issue its long overdue ruling that SSM is legal nationally.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

chromium said:
The same exact thing happened in CA and guess what?
Click to expand...

Nope.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

chromium said:
You really need to inform yourself before such comments. The same exact thing happened in CA and guess what? Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal = walker's decision was upheld. In this case, the judge's ruling was on firm grounds and the SC will either again refuse the appeal, and marriage will soon be legal in utah again, or the SC will issue its long overdue ruling that SSM is legal nationally.
Click to expand...

The equal protection clause justifies anarchy...

If gays want to lump their "marriage" plight with anarchy, then sobeit.

BTW anarchy isn't a good reason to put in font of a sane non-political judge...
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
If the Fourteenth Amendment justifies gay marriage then it justifies me stealing a rich mans car -- That's the ****ing problem and many have figured that **** out by stealing foreclosed homes.
Click to expand...

theres nothing to support nonsense like this, thats why all your arguments have failed.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
1.)The equal protection clause justifies anarchy...

2.) If gays want to lump their "marriage" plight with anarchy, then sobeit.

3.) BTW anarchy isn't a good reason to put in font of a sane non-political judge...
Click to expand...

1.) false it protects rights has facts prove
2.) they dont, PEOPLE want equal rights protected
3.) good thing anarchy has nothign to do with the topic

do you have anything that to present that isnt easily destroyed by facts and is actually on topic? So far ever post you have made on the issue has failed and lost to facts.

anything?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Anthony60 said:
See, this kind of a response just indicates you are willfully misunderstanding. I pointed out, as a difference, that a gay couple can not have offspring, while the majority of opposite sex couples can. As in, if we had to depend on gay couples to repopulate the species with same sex relationships, the human race would die out in one genderation.

You people know what I mean about offspring from two specific people, don't you? Yet you respond as if you have no idea what it means. You point out offspring that are a result of opposite sex couples as examples of gay couples having children. But, I'm in no way surprised, since this is the norm on the left.
Click to expand...

Oooookay. Apparently you think everyone in the country is gonna turn gay if same sex marriage is made legal and somehow surrogates constitute part of a "couple" which kinda shows you regard marriage to be purely sexual. Oh and if someone disagrees with you on any single issue you can discern their entire political lean. Yup, really insightful stuff.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
You mean having to show an ID to vote?
Click to expand...
No, I don't mean showing an ID to vote.
I mean all the other Trickie Dickies that you support and then say you don't support the GOP.
We Democrats believe you should be a USA citizen to vote.

Haha..... The Fourteenth Amendment is such a vague piece of ****....
Click to expand...
So now you don't like the 14th.
I bet you're a big fan of the 16th and 17th also.
Is there anything in the constitution you do like ?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

#3 is classic smack
AGENT J said:
1.) false it protects rights has facts prove
2.) they dont, PEOPLE want equal rights protected
3.) good thing anarchy has nothign to do with the topic

do you have anything that to present that isnt easily destroyed by facts and is actually on topic? So far ever post you have made on the issue has failed and lost to facts.

anything?
Click to expand...
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
The equal protection clause justifies anarchy...

If gays want to lump their "marriage" plight with anarchy, then sobeit.

BTW anarchy isn't a good reason to put in font of a sane non-political judge...
Click to expand...

So in 10 years of marriage equality in Boston, you would say they're in a state of anarchy? Give me a break.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Mr.Nick said:
If true (I haven't read anything on it today) that order will be overturned because a judge is stepping over the line doing it....

Any judge that leaves their politics at home will overturn that in 2 seconds...

The states case is absolutely stronger than the vagueness of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Click to expand...

This is from the Utah ruling.
"The court hereby declares
that Amendment 3 is unconstitutional because it denies the Plaintiffs their rights to due process
and equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution. The
court hereby enjoins the State from enforcing Sections 30-1-2 and 30-1-4.1 of the Utah Code and
Article I, § 29 of the Utah Constitution to the extent these laws prohibit a person from marrying
another person of the same sex."
https://ecf.utd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?213cv0217-90
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Anthony60 said:
There is no need to lie on every post. More irony, that the left's so-called empathy is destroying this country and making things worse for everyone.
Click to expand...

Anthony60 said:
Just keep pumping out those lies...
Click to expand...


Lursa said:
Please explain how they are lies. If you think they are lies, then obviously you know the truth...please enlighten me.

Here you go, please feel free to be specific:
Click to expand...


Lursa said:
So you couldnt. You then DO recognize that a family thru gay marriage is no different than a straight family that used IVF, has biological step children, adopted, etc?

Good. See...facts are your friends!
Click to expand...

...........................
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

NIMBY said:
No, I don't mean showing an ID to vote.
I mean all the other Trickie Dickies that you support and then say you don't support the GOP.
We Democrats believe you should be a USA citizen to vote.


So now you don't like the 14th.
I bet you're a big fan of the 16th and 17th also.
Is there anything in the constitution you do like ?
Click to expand...

I like the Tenth Amendment....
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

wolfsgirl said:
This is from the Utah ruling.
"The court hereby declares
that Amendment 3 is unconstitutional because it denies the Plaintiffs their rights to due process
and equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution. The
court hereby enjoins the State from enforcing Sections 30-1-2 and 30-1-4.1 of the Utah Code and
Article I, § 29 of the Utah Constitution to the extent these laws prohibit a person from marrying
another person of the same sex."
https://ecf.utd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?213cv0217-90
Click to expand...

How is that?

Gays are not slaves or indentured servants.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom