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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    And there is also racial and gender based discrimination within the state.
    Yes there is. I am simply saying that there is always forms of discrimination within any state, any government. It will exist. The key within our government is that this discrimination must be seen as justifiable, furthering a state interest of some kind. Not all of it we currently have is truly justified, but we are working our way closer to having as little as possible to be necessary. Eliminating gender restrictions on marriage is just one way to reach that point.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes there is. I am simply saying that there is always forms of discrimination within any state, any government. It will exist. The key within our government is that this discrimination must be seen as justifiable, furthering a state interest of some kind. Not all of it we currently have is truly justified, but we are working our way closer to having as little as possible to be necessary. Eliminating gender restrictions on marriage is just one way to reach that point.
    I do not support state discrimination as ever "justified."

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well there you go then. You have to accept same sex marriage till you can end the marriage license. Only way to uphold that statement.
    I do not have to accept any state activity.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not support state discrimination as ever "justified."

    I do not have to accept any state activity.
    Then you support anarchy.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Then you support
    Nope.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not have to accept any state activity.
    It's hypocrisy to say that you don't support state discrimination by supporting state discrimination.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's hypocrisy to say that you don't support state discrimination by supporting state discrimination.
    I do not support state discrimination.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not support state discrimination.
    Yet you shall if you do not push for legalization of SSM, as then you are functionally endorsing the discrimination by State.

    This is merely logic, and not very tough logic at that.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not support state discrimination.
    Yes you do, because you're opposing an end to state discrimination.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post

    I do not have to accept any state activity.
    Well it kind of sounds like you do:

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    Except the state is involved, which means I am forced into their business through taxation, and other anti-property laws.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well it kind of sounds like you do
    Cool for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes you do, because you're opposing an end to state discrimination.
    Except the state is still discriminating. so, no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    if you do not push for legalization of SSM
    Supporting the state banning or enforcing discrimination in marriage or anything else is supporting state discrimination. I do not support state discrimination.

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