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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    The federal entity.
    Not real is how you describe rights then.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Rights do not exist.
    Guess you won't be voting.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Not real is how you describe rights then.
    Please show where I ever said such a thing. Or prove that there are no rights that that federal entity protects and interprets.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Wow, hysterical much?

    No one is making YOU enter into a same sex marriage. So why is it imposing anyone's will on you? It doesn't cheapen your marriage to have more people join the institution. It actually strengthens the institution.

    Did allowing women to get the vote "cheapen" the institution of voting for men? was that redefining the right to vote? was that govt "shoving" something down the men's throats, who already had the right to vote? No - extending the franchise just reinforced its importance.

    Sorry you feel so threatened. Most of us don't.
    I've posted my response to most of this a few times already, so I'm not doing it again. Some of the comparisons made by the left here are such poor analogies, I wonder if you actually think about what you are saying or just blurt it out. They just don't stand up.

    Let's cut to what I am talking about. Yes, I feel threatened by an over stepping federal government that is ignoring the extremely important retraints that we put on it with the Constitution. It is dangerous when people ignore this because it is a means to get votes by ramming through their political objectives. It will come back at you someday. You can't let it pass, because once government takes a power, and usually freedoms with it, it is nearly impossible to reverse it. And people usually die in the process.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I've posted my response to most of this a few times already, so I'm not doing it again. Some of the comparisons made by the left here are such poor analogies, I wonder if you actually think about what you are saying or just blurt it out. They just don't stand up.

    Let's cut to what I am talking about. Yes, I feel threatened by an over stepping federal government that is ignoring the extremely important retraints that we put on it with the Constitution. It is dangerous when people ignore this because it is a means to get votes by ramming through their political objectives. It will come back at you someday. You can't let it pass, because once government takes a power, and usually freedoms with it, it is nearly impossible to reverse it. And people usually die in the process.
    What freedom is being lost?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I've posted my response to most of this a few times already, so I'm not doing it again. Some of the comparisons made by the left here are such poor analogies, I wonder if you actually think about what you are saying or just blurt it out. They just don't stand up.

    Let's cut to what I am talking about. Yes, I feel threatened by an over stepping federal government that is ignoring the extremely important retraints that we put on it with the Constitution. It is dangerous when people ignore this because it is a means to get votes by ramming through their political objectives. It will come back at you someday. You can't let it pass, because once government takes a power, and usually freedoms with it, it is nearly impossible to reverse it. And people usually die in the process.
    where is the factual over stepping you speak of, the fed is actually doing what it is supposed to do protecting peoples rights

    nobody is going to die and theres no threat
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    prove that there are no rights that that federal entity protects and interprets.
    If they just protect them does that mean they exist outside of the US?

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    Guess you won't be voting.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Tell that to the people of Utah, and other states that have voted against changing the definition of marriage, that they are just a few misguided people. Doesn't say much for the smaller group of people that voted for it. Gee, what happened to that arrogant left wing meme of "we had a vote, and you lost"? You are wrong.
    the left never supported the concept of voting away somebody else's rights, and no real American should.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, this pretty much ends any reason to debate the topic. This is an ooopsie moment for the left. Like in "A Few Good Men", where the General admitted he ordered the code red. The proverbial cat has just bolted from the bag!

    We are debating about gays getting the full rights of marriage, and then, ooops, they admit that they want marriage taken away as it is and their new version of marriage forced down everyone's throat, even if gays get all the benefits of marriage. They want to impose their will on everyone else. That is the leftist agenda. The big, oppressive government that our Constitution was made to prevent.

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    Separate but equal is inherently unequal.

    Besides, civil unions have never even been close to equal to marriages in practice. There's just too many aspects of law tied into the marriage contract. And you know what? My motivation is just as irrelevant as yours. The burden is on the state to justify the classification. It's not on me to justify why same-sex marriage should be legal. It's up to you to demonstrate why it shouldn't be. The state does not have the authority to make a gender-based classification without an important interest being shown.

    Name that interest, or admit that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional and you just don't care.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What freedom is being lost?
    This is a very important question I've never seen a right-winger answer directly and clearly.
    What harm is caused to them if two dudes get married? Never a real answer. Just some bull**** about moral fabric.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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