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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    You say the crayons are different, I do not.
    They are named differently. It doesn't matter if they are the same things, children would see them as different and it would cause major issues by distinguishing which children get which brand of crayons based on something like hair color or sex/gender.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, this pretty much ends any reason to debate the topic. This is an ooopsie moment for the left. Like in "A Few Good Men", where the General admitted he ordered the code red. The proverbial cat has just bolted from the bag!

    We are debating about gays getting the full rights of marriage, and then, ooops, they admit that they want marriage taken away as it is and their new version of marriage forced down everyone's throat, even if gays get all the benefits of marriage. They want to impose their will on everyone else. That is the leftist agenda. The big, oppressive government that our Constitution was made to prevent.

    "YOU'RE GOD D*MN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!"
    Marriage as it is in no way changes when same sex couples are allowed to enter into it. My marriage is the same as it was 7 years ago when I entered into it with my husband, despite having same sex couples who are also married in the state we now live in and in the military with us.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are named differently. It doesn't matter if they are the same things, children would see them as different and it would cause major issues by distinguishing which children get which brand of crayons based on something like hair color or sex/gender.
    Children would not see the same crayons as different.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Children would not see the same crayons as different.
    Yes, they would. If you give one child a box of Crayolas and another a box of RoseArts, and tell them specifically that it is because of something like their hair color or their gender, then they will feel subconscious about that aspect of themselves. I guarantee it. And that is what you are suggesting with marriage. Give one group "marriage" and another "civil unions" or something like them based solely on genders.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, they would. If you give one child a box of Crayolas and another a box of RoseArts, and tell them specifically that it is because of something like their hair color or their gender, then they will feel subconscious about that aspect of themselves. I guarantee it. And that is what you are suggesting with marriage. Give one group "marriage" and another "civil unions" or something like them based solely on genders.
    I did not propose that.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I did not propose that.
    Yes you did.

    If it was called anything but marriage, and it came with all the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections," would they say yes or no?
    Post #868 by you. You suggest calling it something other than marriage with all the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections".

    As I said, it would be like giving two different groups of children different brands of crayons based solely on their gender, since the only thing that distinguishes between same sex couples and opposite sex couples is the relative genders of the couples.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Post #868 by you. You suggest calling it something other than marriage with all the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections".

    As I said, it would be like giving two different groups of children different brands of crayons based solely on their gender, since the only thing that distinguishes between same sex couples and opposite sex couples is the relative genders of the couples.
    Crayola crayons are crayola crayons, roseart crayons are not crayola crayons (irrelevant of the name, they are literally different).

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Crayola crayons are crayola crayons, roseart crayons are not crayola crayons (irrelevant of the name, they are literally different).
    They are all crayons. They work the same way. They are the same colors. Just as you are suggesting with marriage-that-isn't-called-marriage for same sex couples.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are all crayons. They work the same way. They are the same colors. Just as you are suggesting with marriage-that-isn't-called-marriage for same sex couples.
    Just like a Ford Festiva is not a Ford Tauras because they are both cars, roseart crayons are not the exact same as crayola crayons.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    The fact that marriage does not mean same sex, except when politically motivated.
    ROFL! you're back to that!!

    Yes, marriage does mean same sex - to many states, to various countries, and to Merriam Webster's. You're saying it doesn't really doesn't change that.

    And we've proven that ad nauseum to you. You refuse to see it. Sad.

    It may not mean same sex TO YOU. But to a whole lot of people, states, countries, dictionaries - it does. Your fail.

    Now, do you want to redefine the word "line" or something?

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