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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And civil unions are different than marriages, even if they come with all the same things.

    Plus, I changed the question just for you and you still failed to answer. Would it be okay for those children with brown eyes to be given Crayola crayons while those with any other eye color got RoseArt crayons? Would it be fair to distinguish between children that way?
    So they want the word and not the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections"?

    Those are different crayons.

    And I do not support any state discrimination, which includes discriminating with race or eye color.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    So they want the word and not the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections"?

    Those are different crayons.

    And I do not support any state discrimination, which includes discriminating with race or eye color.
    Yes, they are different crayons but they still work the same way. They are simply different brands. They have the same colors. They provide the same benefits. You are suggesting the same thing when it comes to marriage. Basically you wish to have opposite sex couples use the Crayola brand of marriage and same sex couples must use the RoseArt brand of marriage, all based on gender.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, they are different crayons but they still work the same way. They are simply different brands. They have the same colors. They provide the same benefits. You are suggesting the same thing when it comes to marriage. Basically you wish to have opposite sex couples use the Crayola brand of marriage and same sex couples must use the RoseArt brand of marriage, all based on gender.
    Well I proposed the exact same "benefits, privileges, and legal protections," which you said no to.

    That would be the same crayons but they are called cruyons. It has already been established that the word and nothing else is what they want.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Well I proposed the exact same "benefits, privileges, and legal protections," which you said no to.

    That would be the same crayons but they are called cruyons. It has already been established that the word and nothing else is what they want.
    You proposed making same sex couples use the RoseArt crayons while all opposite sex couples get to use Crayola crayons. They are all the same crayons, but you even admitted that doing so would be discriminatory because it discriminates based on labels and specific characteristics of people for no good reason.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You proposed making same sex couples use the RoseArt crayons while all opposite sex couples get to use Crayola crayons. They are all the same crayons, but you even admitted that doing so would be discriminatory because it discriminates based on labels and specific characteristics of people for no good reason.
    Same crayons, but called cruyons.

    I am against state discrimination, sure. That is a pretty uncommon thing to be against though.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Same crayons, but called cruyons.

    I am against state discrimination, sure. That is a pretty uncommon thing to be against though.
    Changing the name of a contract for couples based on their genders is state discrimination.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Changing the name of a contract for couples based on their genders is state discrimination.
    Like I said, you care only about the name. And creating a new word for a new thing is not discrimination, it just makes sense.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Like I said, you care only about the name. And creating a new word for a new thing is not discrimination, it just makes sense.
    It is discrimination. You just said it with the crayons. The contract would be the same thing, just as Crayola and RoseArt crayons are the same. The only difference is in the name and who gets which.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I know you would disapprove because the "benefits, privileges, and legal protections" are not what they are fighting for. They just want the word, as is shown in your post.
    Well, this pretty much ends any reason to debate the topic. This is an ooopsie moment for the left. Like in "A Few Good Men", where the General admitted he ordered the code red. The proverbial cat has just bolted from the bag!

    We are debating about gays getting the full rights of marriage, and then, ooops, they admit that they want marriage taken away as it is and their new version of marriage forced down everyone's throat, even if gays get all the benefits of marriage. They want to impose their will on everyone else. That is the leftist agenda. The big, oppressive government that our Constitution was made to prevent.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is discrimination. You just said it with the crayons. The contract would be the same thing, just as Crayola and RoseArt crayons are the same. The only difference is in the name and who gets which.
    You say the crayons are different, I do not.

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