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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Not true: Maine, Maryland and Washington legalized gay marriage per voter referendum. Oregon is voting in November, 2014.

    Yes. Even counting just Republicans, there are more Republican voters in California than there are in Texas.

    California 2012 - 4,839,958 Romney
    Texas 2012 - 4,569,843 Romney

    California 1984 - 5,467,009 Reagan
    Texas 1984 - 3,433,428 Regan
    It is only not true if I was mentioning something other than California (which I wasn't).

    Texas has what, 60% of the population of California?

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    Yes. Millions of them.
    A majority?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I can't help your inability to understand the statement.




    So, are you stating that a judicial decision could be wrong??? Like this one.



    I guess I just have to be blunt instead of being nice. It is stupid when you get it wrong.
    If you say something bigoted then you are making a bigoted statement. I am not sure why that is hard to understand. You may not think that you are a bigot, and maybe you really aren't, but in wanting to deny people rights you label yourself as a bigot.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What if it was put to a vote today? Public opinion has changed. Anyhows public opinion should not have sway on individual rights like marriage.
    I would not put Big Money on it failing in California today. Without the money poured into prop 8 by the Mormon and Catholic church, it wouldn't have succeeded in 2008. No way would it pass today.

    And again - who cares? the majority can't vote away constitutional rights, no matter how hard they try.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution. It really isn't that hard to figure out unless you simply don't like that Clause or don't approve of more freedom for everyone and would rather use the Constitution to restrict rights, particularly individual rights, rather than prevent the government from taking away/denying freedoms, even by the votes of the majority.
    I'm not sure what you are saying. If you look at my post that you captioned and your response, they have nothing to do with one another.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If you say something bigoted then you are making a bigoted statement.
    No one is disagreeing with that, Captain Obvious.

    I am not sure why that is hard to understand. You may not think that you are a bigot, and maybe you really aren't, but in wanting to deny people rights you label yourself as a bigot.
    ...and there is the stupid part.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No one is disagreeing with that, Captain Obvious.



    ...and there is the stupid part.
    And what is stupid about it. It is an accurate description.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    So just the "bulk" were a decade ago?

    The bulk of gay marriage has been approved not by a majority of the voters, but court order or legislation.
    Same as inter-racial marriage
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    And what is stupid about it. It is an accurate description.
    I'm really kind of done with this. You have chosen to just hide behind a tired, inaccurate strategy of name calling. You could have tried to present a fact based argument, but you haven't. So come back when you've got something legitimate, for now you are a waste of time.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    A great way to end 2013. Having lived in Utah for 25 years, I never thought I would see the day that loving gay couples would be able to marry the person they loved. Love is prevailing over hate....and even more to come in 2014!!!
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    A great way to end 2013. Having lived in Utah for 25 years, I never thought I would see the day that loving gay couples would be able to marry the person they loved. Love is prevailing over hate....and even more to come in 2014!!!

    Excellent point!! "Love is in the Air"! and now I'm flashing back on the ending of "Strictly Ballroom" which we just watched again a few days ago - and there were same sex couples dancing in the big finale!

    Who would have thought we'd get to this point???? Pretty amazing!

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