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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Except I don't.
    Unless the state is banning SSM

    Then you do
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You continue to post things that are pointless. The state is involved because it is a state issue. Otherwise it is nothing more than a personal relationship, something that exists without the state or any word referring to it as "marriage" at all. You don't get the protections without the state since the state is the one giving you the protections of the relationship. Society is who sets up the state (at least for the US anyway) so society says that it wants protections (and even benefits) available for those who are closest to them in their lives, such as children, parents, siblings, and yes, spouses, especially spouses. We also want protection from our spouses too because a relationship such as marriage almost always involves major financial merging and issues that could harm one of those involved if the other isn't completely truthful or fair.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    The state made it a state issue, and then they stay involved.

    Protection from the state by the state is really silly.
    The state got involved because people WANTED the state to dictate morality AND get paid doing so. People are what make the state and people are who gave the power to the state to do this. Blame them.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

     
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    Unless the state is banning SSM
    Except I do not support state intervention into marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The state got involved because people WANTED the state to dictate morality AND get paid doing so. People are what make the state and people are who gave the power to the state to do this. Blame them.
    Yep, voters are also at fault.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Ignoring that rights do not exist, I do not support state intervention into marriage.
    If rights do not exist, than you do not believe in the state AT ALL and as such you are an anarchist.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    If rights do not exist, than you do not believe in the state AT ALL and as such you are an anarchist.
    Rights existing or not has nothing to do with anarchy or the state.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Except I do not support state intervention into marriage.



    Yep, voters are also at fault.
    Except when the state bans SSM

    Then you do
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Rights existing or not has nothing to do with anarchy or the state.
    Sure it does, no rights = anarchy. You are an anarchist and have proven it, thank you.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Except when the state bans SSM
    Except I don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sure it does, no rights = anarchy.
    Rights do not exist, and there is not anarchy now.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    The state made it a state issue, and then they stay involved.

    Protection from the state by the state is really silly.
    You aren't making any sense here. The state made it an issue because it already was an issue. Governments have recognized spouses for a long time, even if it wasn't always done through paperwork. Many countries in the past had rules governing how many wives or husbands a person could claim legally. The only difference now is that we use a document to prove the relationship rather than taking people's word on it. But we also have a lot more people to deal with now and a lot difference technology than in the past, before written documents were used to verify spousal relationships. It doesn't change the fact that there has always been some sort of legal recognition of such relationships, and therefore some government involvement in them.
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