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Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage[W:780]

Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Not in any way that it's not being spent on straight marriage. I suppose one could say that the clerk or whoever issues the marriage license is paid by tax dollars, but even then that's a pretty pathetic argument against marriage equality.

It's hard for me to imagine the state's coffer's being sucked dry in any case. I'm pretty sure I paid a fee when my wife and I registered our marriage.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Not in any way that it's not being spent on straight marriage. I suppose one could say that the clerk or whoever issues the marriage license is paid by tax dollars

Legislation, courts, and also the second sentence you wrote.

How is a country supposed to function without taxes?

You mean forced taxes or taxes?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Legislation, courts, and also the second sentence you wrote.

So let me get this straight ... SSM shouldn't be legal because taxes pay for the process by which it becomes legal?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

shouldn't be legal

I do not support any state regulation banning or supporting gay marriage.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Legislation, courts, and also the second sentence you wrote.



You mean forced taxes or taxes?

I suspect you may be new to debate, at least on a public forum, so let me give you a helpful tip: when someone asks you a question and you go out of your way to avoid answering it, what you're effectively announcing is that you don't have an answer. So would you like to answer how you expect a government to operate without taxes or do you intend to quibble on what taxes are called forever? Or maybe you'd like to choose door #3: you hadn't really thought that through and you'd like to drop it.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

So would you like to answer how you expect a government to operate without taxes

Do you mean taxes or forced taxes?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Do you mean taxes or forced taxes?

Alright, so you didn't really think it through.

Don't feel bad: nobody before you could come up with a concrete way in which gay marriage affected them either.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Do you mean taxes or forced taxes?

Please enlighten us with what you think taxes are versus forced taxes.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Taxation.



One is consensual, one is forced (obviously).

How are you even supposed to reply to that?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Taxation mean theft of labor. And then stealing from you to promote something you do not support, is added.

Are you SURE you are an educator? because you've done nothing on this thread but confuse the heck out of us - we can't figure out what you're talking about. How does taxation affect a straight couple when same sex couples start marrying? It doesn't increase or decrease the tax rate of the straight couple.

Are you this cryptic in front of students? just curious.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

So let me get this straight ... SSM shouldn't be legal because taxes pay for the process by which it becomes legal?

Well, we wouldn't have had to spend all that time in court if they would just let same sex couples get married! so it's the bigots who are wasting the tax dollars.

But honestly, I have no clue what she means by taxation.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

How are you even supposed to reply to that?

You would not reply because it is very easy to understand. Taxes are not only state related.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Are you SURE you are an educator? because you've done nothing on this thread but confuse the heck out of us - we can't figure out what you're talking about. How does taxation affect a straight couple when same sex couples start marrying? It doesn't increase or decrease the tax rate of the straight couple.

Are you this cryptic in front of students? just curious.

Good god, she's a teacher?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

You would not reply because it is very easy to understand. Taxes are not only state related.

No, it isn't easy to understand. What taxes are forced, and what taxes are consensual?

I'm pretty sure all taxes are forced. But we agree to be forced to pay them, so maybe they are all consensual.

Wow. Sorry. I haven't had enough to drink in order to be able to follow that.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Are you SURE you are an educator? because you've done nothing on this thread but confuse the heck out of us - we can't figure out what you're talking about. How does taxation affect a straight couple when same sex couples start marrying? It doesn't increase or decrease the tax rate of the straight couple.

Are you this cryptic in front of students? just curious.

Yeah, this line of reasoning isn't making a whole lot of sense to me either.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

What taxes are forced, and what taxes are consensual?.

State taxes. Non-state taxes.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Having your money taken affects you.

sure. But how does same sex couples affect how much money is taken from me in taxes?

Ok, you don't have an argument here, as I believe Cardinal and Kobie pointed out.

You can stop flailing around. Just give it up
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

But how does same sex couples affect how much money is taken from me in taxes?

Voting, but the varying amount is not what I am referencing.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Under her name it says "educator". I hope I'm wrong.

LOL That is just something dealing with/related to number of posts. It isn't really the person's profession (luckily).
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

It says it under yours too. That's a forum title.

OOPS!! Massive fail on my part. Apologies! I never noticed that.

Whoosh. Plus side, means Scatt is probably not a teacher.

(hanging head in forum shame)
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

LOL That is just something dealing with/related to number of posts. It isn't really the person's profession (luckily).


Yeah, I did a big fail on that... DUH!!! so much for my power of observation...
 
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