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Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage
You are completely wrong. Birth certificates and adoptions require state recognition. Otherwise, the state will come in and take the children away. There must be something through the state that says you have custody of the children you are raising. It sounds horrible and wrong, but it is true. It is part of the world we live in, even if most people cannot see it or don't want to recognize it. When it comes to children, there is an advantage to having genetic testing to show that a child is your biological child, but that doesn't make it absolute. The state can take a parent's claim to a child from them if the person is shown to be harmful to the child. And adoptions involve the state massively, even if private. The paperwork is all legal and if challenged would go through the court, an arm of the government. And without legal paperwork, the state can come and take children, especially children not biologically the person's/people's away from them. The kinship of child/parent is a legal recognition. You must in fact demonstrate this legal kinship throughout your child's life if you interact with the government at all, including getting the child an education (that isn't homeschooling), getting the child healthcare, paying taxes, or many other things. This is done through birth certificates and/or adoption paperwork, along with additional paperwork for certain circumstances.
The same goes for recognition of a spouse as a legal kin. If you wish to have your spouse receive any recognition from the government, then you must show that you are legally connected to that person, via a marriage license.
Marriage can only be "illegal" with the state involved.
Birth certificates and adoptions require no state, but legal related ones do.
You are completely wrong. Birth certificates and adoptions require state recognition. Otherwise, the state will come in and take the children away. There must be something through the state that says you have custody of the children you are raising. It sounds horrible and wrong, but it is true. It is part of the world we live in, even if most people cannot see it or don't want to recognize it. When it comes to children, there is an advantage to having genetic testing to show that a child is your biological child, but that doesn't make it absolute. The state can take a parent's claim to a child from them if the person is shown to be harmful to the child. And adoptions involve the state massively, even if private. The paperwork is all legal and if challenged would go through the court, an arm of the government. And without legal paperwork, the state can come and take children, especially children not biologically the person's/people's away from them. The kinship of child/parent is a legal recognition. You must in fact demonstrate this legal kinship throughout your child's life if you interact with the government at all, including getting the child an education (that isn't homeschooling), getting the child healthcare, paying taxes, or many other things. This is done through birth certificates and/or adoption paperwork, along with additional paperwork for certain circumstances.
The same goes for recognition of a spouse as a legal kin. If you wish to have your spouse receive any recognition from the government, then you must show that you are legally connected to that person, via a marriage license.