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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this matter, but the only opinion that will really matter in the long run is the opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court when it eventually rules on this.

    Does anyone really think that it will deny the right to marry to some people in the USA and grant that same right to others?

    I don't believe that will ever happen because it would violate the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
    Well, it wouldn't violate the 14th and SCOTUS, who knows how they'll rule or even if they'll finally take the case head on. They're seemingly content with letting the constitution die the death of a thousand cuts as it is. Still over three quarters of the states don't allow gay marriage and of the ones that do it's solely from judicial legislation for the most part. It's a state's issue, the SCOTUS knows it, but is unwilling to say it. So they avoid, avoid, avoid.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
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    I lived in Utah for 25 years before moving to California. Never thought that I would see this day. Congratulations Utah.
    A great day for Utah and a great day for Freedom loving Americans across this great Country.



    Utah has been dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st Century.

    I predict that it won't be going back to where it was.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Loving v. Virginia
    Which recent gay marriage case at the supreme court used Loving in their decision?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
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    Current line in Salt Lake City, people waiting to get marriage licenses.
    Mayor Ralph Becker said that he will work all night to make sure everyone who wants to get married can take advantage of this ruling.



    Mayor Becker is an awesome man who supports equal rights for all.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You just demonstrated for all to see that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Sorry....but it isn't worth the time trying to educate you.
    Really? That's it? All you can muster? Not impressed, "counsler". In other words, you have no reply.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually...its both. The USSC recognized marriage as a fundamental right in Loving v. Virginia. It also, however, implicates due process and equal protection as well. Discriminatory state action is not per se Unconstitutional. If the state has a legitimate state interest in the discriminatory treatment, the law will be upheld.
    The problem for marriage equality opponents is that they have not been able to frame a legitimate state interest in denying gay people the right to marry.



    Giving same-sex couples the right to marry does not affect opposite-sex couples in any way.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60;1062693345[B
    ]I find your name calling a bit offensive. People in this country are allowed to have religious beliefs and faiths, not to be diminished by the ignorant, intolerant views of the leftist that feel a need to dump their hate on us
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    I find your calling leftists ignorant and intolerant offensive.

    Its not the leftists in the USA who are trying to deny gay people the right to get married, its the evangelicals and the Mormons on the right who are doing this intolerant stuff.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Its not the leftists in the USA who are trying to deny gay people the right to get married, its the evangelicals and the Mormons on the right who are doing this intolerant stuff.
    Gays can marry in every single state, just the majority of those states do not recognize that marriage.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    because if government had moral authority over you they could dictate your life, how much you eat, you weight. your health, what you drink.
    No, those are not 'moral' issues. Not remotely. You are not using the word correctly.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I find your calling leftists ignorant and intolerant offensive.

    Its not the leftists in the USA who are trying to deny gay people the right to get married, its the evangelicals and the Mormons on the right who are doing this intolerant stuff.
    It's the lefists too, They have their own ways. And gay perople could always get married, in every state. Just not to someone the same sex.

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