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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I like the Tenth Amendment....
    which as no meaning in this case and is fully intact
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    How is that?

    Gays are not slaves or indentured servants.
    Gays ARE American citizens.

    AMENDMENT XIV

    SECTION 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    So if a state has marriage and the legal protections that go with marriage, it can not deny ANY PERSON within it's jurisdiction the protections of marriage without showing how doing so would further a compelling state interest.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Got any citations?
    guess you missed my link earlier.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    How is that?

    Gays are not slaves or indentured servants.
    thank you for further proving that you have no idea about this topic lol

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Facts destory your post again
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    You really need to inform yourself before such comments. The same exact thing happened in CA and guess what? Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal = walker's decision was upheld. In this case, the judge's ruling was on firm grounds and the SC will either again refuse the appeal, and marriage will soon be legal in utah again, or the SC will issue its long overdue ruling that SSM is legal nationally.
    Basically, among other things, the court said that once marriages were allowed (as they were in California and as they were in Utah) you can't take away that right.

    Yeah, Utah's appeal is going to fail.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    For those that think the Civil Marriage performed in Utah during the period after Judge Shelby's ruling but before the SCOTUS Stay...

    The State of Utah says they will not recognize their own Civil Marriages, that does not mean the Civil Marriages are void, the other states that recognize Same-sex Civil Marriages will still consider them as valid AND those couples will be able to file as "Married filing jointly" and will be considred married under Federal purposes.


    Just say'n.


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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Oooookay. Apparently you think everyone in the country is gonna turn gay if same sex marriage is made legal...
    Yes, really insightful. Good grief. I just have to assume it is willful, though I don't want to underestimate the lack of IQ I've seen here lately. You know who you are.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Facts recap:

    It is an equal rights/equality issue
    Marriages established after the ruling but before the stay are valid
    The 10th inst infringed on
    The 14th can apply

    Also see post 1506 for some further insight on this.

    Im actually excited to see how this turns out, i wanna see if the people against equality have the balls to push the actually decision all the way up.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    The phrase "same sex marriage" should be banned. Remove "sex" from this subject. I thought marriage was "commitment", not "sex".
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    The phrase "same sex marriage" should be banned. Remove "sex" from this subject. I thought marriage was "commitment", not "sex".
    I would argue that the word is referencing gender rather than intercourse.
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