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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    As long as we're going back decades blaming DEM courts, why not do the same on unemployment, which we've extended since Nixon.
    See what I mean; every issue goes down this road.
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    Because the the failure of the SCOTUS precedes the recent courts. The progressive Living Document crap came decades ago.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I celebrate the loss of bigotry where I find it. I also mourn the loss of our constitutional government. Throwing out one to achieve the other is a fool's errand.
    good thing that factually isnt happening then, this is why the majority and the ones that see these facts are celebrating.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, the United States absolutely would use military force to ensure it maintained control over its assets.
    yep this would happen for sure if that people actually tried
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Attacking my right to decide other peoples' rights for them!
    yep thats what people are so upset about, somehow they think they have the right to decide who gets equal rights
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So we're super authoritarian but the fed doesn't actually do anything to prevent your actions. That's... interesting.
    I said the feds cant do anything - I didn't say that they try and are successful at tyranny.

    What I'm saying is that when 1,000,000 people say NO or when a person speaking for a state says NO there is nothing the feds can do.

    The only reason why the progressive tyrants are successful with their authoritarian and tyrannical bull**** is because many people are passive....

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    True, interracial marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution, nor is sodomy - both those were not within the federal court's original grant of powers to adjudicate. Marriage and sexual behaviors, that's up to the states according to the constitution. Jim Crow laws are indeed addressed by amendment. And the tenth protects the people from exactly the conditions the feds have misused the 14th to engineer.
    The entire Constitution protects the people from the government. Like it or not, the 14th extended that to state governments as well. You can complain about that all you wish, but it is the legal truth.

    As for Jim Crow laws being addressed directly by the Constitution, I dare you to show me where exactly that is.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    **** the courts....

    The courts don't have any damn right circumventing the Bill of Rights (which they have been doing since democrats turned into authoritarian "progressives")...
    They do have that right and in fact, that is their duty. They are not circumventing anything. The BoR clearly gives the rights to both the states and the people, not just one. And the 14th ensured that the rights of the individuals trump the "rights" of the states since the state governments are still just governments and the entire point of the Constitution itself is to protect infringement of rights by government.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    1.)As far as I'm concerned the government shouldn't be involved in the marriage business. Theoretically they're not considering marriage is nothing more than a contract -
    2.)which is what angers me even more about the gays.
    3.)There is absolutely nothing stopping them from signing civil contracts...
    4.)This whole plight by them is nothing more than a plight of "social acceptance" which is goofy considering no one can force another to accept an idea....
    5.) I don't care much for peas, yet you can shove peas down my throat all day and that still wont make me like peas, but at the same time I don't give a **** if others like peas or of others grow peas.... To each his own....
    1.) WOW it being a contract is why they are there, they have to protect my contract and im glad they do.
    2.) the wording of this sentence tells us so much
    3.) 100% false for multipe reasons. Civil contracts other than marriage are factually not equal and many states have banned those too. If you are going to discuss this issue you might want to get "topically" educated because its obvious you are not
    4.) this strawman has been destroyed everytime somebody tries it and you answered you own question since acceptance cant be achieved through equal rights its would be doum to try this is why its NOT happening and your strawman fails.
    5.) you have proved you DO care

    well anyway after you read up on this isse come back and discuss it more
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But it is. The law is valid until the stay is removed, or the law is ruled unconstitutional by the 10th and if the 10th does not put the ruling on hold for the SCOTUS certiori, or if SCOTUS grants a stay also.



    No, that will not occur today.
    The law has already been ruled unconstitutional. It is currently unconstitutional until another court rules otherwise. It may go back and forth between the two before it reaches the final decision, but as of right now, it is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What I'm saying is that when 1,000,000 people say NO or when a person speaking for a state says NO there is nothing the feds can do.

    The only reason why the progressive tyrants are successful with their authoritarian and tyrannical bull**** is because many people are passive....
    and you would be factually wrong again
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