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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    That law is valid as of right now.
    No it isn't. The higher court simply ruled that the marriages could not be conducted until the next court makes a ruling. The court did not rule that the law itself was valid. As of right now, the law is not valid. And that was absolutely true when those people entered into their marriages.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it doesn't have to. Interracial marriage is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Segregation is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Jim Crow laws were not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Sodomy was not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

    The problem is that too many people think that the Constitution is supposed to mention every right specifically that it protects. It isn't. The entire point of the Constitution is to limit the powers of government from taking away rights. And the 14th Amendment ensured that the Constitution, particularly the rights of the citizens are protected from state governments taking rights from the people.
    True, interracial marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution, nor is sodomy - both those were not within the federal court's original grant of powers to adjudicate. Marriage and sexual behaviors, that's up to the states according to the constitution. Jim Crow laws are indeed addressed by amendment. And the tenth protects the people from exactly the conditions the feds have misused the 14th to engineer.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Except that will not occur today.
    No. Because nobody is actually going to attempt secession. But if they did, similar results are to be expected.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    C'mon, don't jump the shark. At the extreme, Utah could be treated just like every other Indian reservation operating within the US. How would the seceded state make one dollar when their exports and imports would be controlled. Last I looked Utah is land locked.
    And who is going to control that?

    You think the federal government could actually get away with giving a state like Utah (for example) the Cuba treatment?

    These clowns cant even keep illegal aliens out of the country.... What are they going to do secure the Utah borders?

    Not to mention Utah (of all places) does way more for the economy than the federal government does...

    Our federal government cant do anything - they just act and idiot politicians obey.

    An angry mob could coup this government in a matter of days - that is how inept they are.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No. Because nobody is actually going to attempt secession. But if they did, similar results are to be expected.
    Id actually like to see a bunch of idiots try this, it be so funny to see them try it over equal rights and watching them loose. it would be a good riddance or waste in america.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And who is going to control that?

    You think the federal government could actually get away with giving a state like Utah (for example) the Cuba treatment?

    These clowns cant even keep illegal aliens out of the country.... What are they going to do secure the Utah boarders?

    Not to mention Utah (of all places) does way more for the economy than the federal government does...

    Our federal government cant do anything - they just act and idiot politicians obey.

    An angry mob could coup this government in a matter of days - that is how inept they are.
    All I can do at this point is disagree with you. In the end, every state bowed to the 55mph speed limit, even the ones where the policy cost them money (Hawaii is a good example). And that was simply from the withdrawl of highway funding alone.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it isn't. The higher court simply ruled that the marriages could not be conducted until the next court makes a ruling. The court did not rule that the law itself was valid. As of right now, the law is not valid. And that was absolutely true when those people entered into their marriages.
    **** the courts....

    The courts don't have any damn right circumventing the Bill of Rights (which they have been doing since democrats turned into authoritarian "progressives")...

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it isn't. The higher court simply ruled that the marriages could not be conducted until the next court makes a ruling. The court did not rule that the law itself was valid. As of right now, the law is not valid. And that was absolutely true when those people entered into their marriages.
    But it is. The law is valid until the stay is removed, or the law is ruled unconstitutional by the 10th and if the 10th does not put the ruling on hold for the SCOTUS certiori, or if SCOTUS grants a stay also.

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    But if they did, similar results are to be expected.
    No, that will not occur today.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    **** the courts....

    The courts don't have any damn right circumventing the Bill of Rights (which they have been doing since democrats turned into authoritarian "progressives")...
    and what makes your interpretation of the constitution superior to that of the supreme court or other federal courts?
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    I love the fear that is brought on by equal rights, this fear is is brought on because they know the end is near and equal rights is winning. Bigotry and or discrimination is lossing and its scary to those who want it and support it.
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