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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Like how?

    Federal funding?

    So what.

    The feds cant do anything.... They're like North Korea with all the **** they talk....

    What the hell can they actually do?

    A state could secede right now and no one that has the actual capability to fight it would (civil war)....
    Yes, federal funding IS a big deal. Not to mention all the other little ways the fed could make things very uncomfortable for the state. Like requiring federal oversight for every single administrative department the state has, from police to accounting. The IRS could go into overtime checking and rechecking every Utah politicians and business tax filings and charging them for the pleasure.

    Again, not saying it's right, just saying it's where we are.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There are so many ways the federal can punish states for ignoring their proclamations. I understand your frustration at the creeping loss of the United States portion of the United States of America.
    on this issue nothing is lost
    the fed is doing the right thing and protecting equal rights

    it should do the same thing on states that are infringing on guns rights too
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    on this issue nothing is lost
    the fed is doing the right thing and protecting equal rights

    it should do the same thing on states that are infringing on guns rights too
    It isn't and it won't. The only reason there isn't more invocation of the 10th in federal courts is that the SCOTUS doesn't want to reinforce the existence of the tenth, they want it dead and forgotten. The tenth doesn't allow the current federal uber alles system to exist.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It isn't and it won't. The only reason there isn't more invocation of the 10th in federal courts is that the SCOTUS doesn't want to reinforce the existence of the tenth, they want it dead and forgotten. The tenth doesn't allow the current federal uber alles system to exist.
    the 10th isnt being infringed on in this case, thats why its not brought up
    the fed is protecting individual rights just like it should
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    the 10th isnt being infringed on in this case, thats why its not brought up
    the fed is protecting individual rights just like it should
    No, they're protecting the federal "right" to say what are rights and what aren't. Not at all based upon the Constitution which mentions neither marriage nor sexual orientation.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, federal funding IS a big deal. Not to mention all the other little ways the fed could make things very uncomfortable for the state. Like requiring federal oversight for every single administrative department the state has, from police to accounting. The IRS could go into overtime checking and rechecking every Utah politicians and business tax filings and charging them for the pleasure.

    Again, not saying it's right, just saying it's where we are.
    So what?

    What can they actually do?

    Nothing!

    Cut off the federal government entirely and operate as your own independent republic via secession.

    What can the government actually do to prevent that?

    War??? lol.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    1.)No, they're protecting the federal "right" to say what are rights and what aren't.
    2.)Not at all based upon the Constitution which mentions neither marriage nor sexual orientation.
    1.) nope they are protecting individual rights/equal rights as factually proven in the cases already
    2.) doesnt have to LMAO
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So what?

    What can they actually do?

    Nothing!

    Cut off the federal government entirely and operate as your own independent republic via secession.

    What can the government actually do to prevent that?

    War??? lol.
    C'mon, don't jump the shark. At the extreme, Utah could be treated just like every other Indian reservation operating within the US. How would the seceded state make one dollar when their exports and imports would be controlled. Last I looked Utah is land locked.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nope they are protecting individual rights/equal rights as factually proven in the cases already
    2.) doesnt have to LMAO
    Yes, it does "have to". For example, how did women gain the right to vote in federal elections? Constitutional amendment. Some states already allowed women to vote, but then only in state elections, why? Because it was not in the US Constitution. And no, they are not protecting any constitutional right, the ONLY rights they are granted to protect.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So what?

    What can they actually do?

    Nothing!

    Cut off the federal government entirely and operate as your own independent republic via secession.

    What can the government actually do to prevent that?

    War??? lol.
    this is funny, you want to leave america because people are being granted equal rights, well i guess that makes sense since being against equal rights isnt american.

    theres an easier way though simply lever the country since you dont believe in equal rights and freedom.
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