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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I know you don't understand that someone could feel empathy for a minority group that is being discriminated against, but some of us actually do. Some of us actually care about individual freedom for people other than ourselves. Since same-sex marriage has no effect on my life, I have no business denying that right to others, and as an American I feel obligated to support that freedom for others.
    not some, the majority actually do but thats just a bonus since it doesnt matter to equal/civil rights

    but you are correct the majority of people support equal rights RIGHT and LEFT and dont support discrimination and or bigotry against equality.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I know you don't understand that someone could feel empathy for a minority group that is being discriminated against, but some of us actually do. Some of us actually care about individual freedom for people other than ourselves. Since same-sex marriage has no effect on my life, I have no business denying that right to others, and as an American I feel obligated to support that freedom for others.
    also something about this EXCELLENT point

    while i totally understand if some dont feel obligated and or simply cant support it because of personal reasons religious views etc, as an american they most certainly should NOT fight against it and try to stop it, if they do that is purely hypocritical and bigoted. But they can FEEL its wrong all they want.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I know you don't understand that someone could feel empathy for a minority group that is being discriminated against, but some of us actually do. Some of us actually care about individual freedom for people other than ourselves. Since same-sex marriage has no effect on my life, I have no business denying that right to others, and as an American I feel obligated to support that freedom for others.
    There is no need to lie on every post. More irony, that the left's so-called empathy is destroying this country and making things worse for everyone.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Now the governor of Utah says that none of the marriages that have already happened will be recognized by the state.

    Utah Will Not Recognize Same-Sex Marriages That Have Already Been Performed: Governor's Office
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Now the governor of Utah says that none of the marriages that have already happened will be recognized by the state.

    Utah Will Not Recognize Same-Sex Marriages That Have Already Been Performed: Governor's Office
    going by other court cases he doesnt get to make that decision, that too would have to go to court even if equal rights is not established in Utah. They can be currently stayed but thats it. And even that is a grey area.

    Just chest pounding from a bigot.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Let's see, the chief executive has no say in something that falls within his duties to administer? Interesting concept. If that is the case, we ARE ruled exclusively by the judiciary. I don't recall that particular constitutional grant for state or federal.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Now the governor of Utah says that none of the marriages that have already happened will be recognized by the state.

    Utah Will Not Recognize Same-Sex Marriages That Have Already Been Performed: Governor's Office
    Makes sense.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    What im hoping for is that this gets pushed and pushed and the decision itslef actually makes it to the supreme court, that would be awesome.

    The faster people push it to them the faster equal rights for gays will be national!

    I love all the victories equal rights is having but its gonna be awesome when the last nail in the coffin against bigotry and or discrimination is driven home!

    Maybe this Utah case will be one of the major parts, there are some other lining up to make it to SCOTUS too. I cant wait, makes me proud as an american to be alive and witness this greatness! I hope Utah is on of the final straws.

    #BigotryIsLosing
    #equalRightsIsWinning

    just a reminder im leaving Utah on the list unless its over turned

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    18 States with Equal Rights

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    Utah – December 20. 2013 (appealed stay supreme court! )
    Illinois - June 1, 2014 effective

    21 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    14 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights
    Alaska (Suit to be filed this month)
    Kentucky
    Idaho
    Louisiana
    Michigan (Feb 2014 Trial)
    Mississippi
    North Carolina
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania (June 14 Trial)
    South Carolina
    Tennessee (Direct US Constitution Challenge)
    Texas (Jan 2014 Trial, Direct US Constitution Challenge)
    Virginia (two different suits, one involves Prop8 lawyers)
    West Virginia

    4 States with Court Case(s) and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Arizona
    Arkansas (Decesion Pending and 2016 ballot)
    Nevada
    Ohio (December 2013 trial) Trial had narrow ruling that ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.

    3 States with Legislation to Establish Equal Rights
    Colorado
    Florida
    Oregon

    thats 39 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Just keep pumping out those lies...
    How is saying "a family thru gay marriage is no different than a straight family that used IVF, has biological step children, adopted, etc?" a lie? I'd love to know how an IVF kid from a lesbian couple is different from an IVF kid from a straight couple...

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I know you don't understand that someone could feel empathy for a minority group that is being discriminated against, but some of us actually do. Some of us actually care about individual freedom for people other than ourselves. Since same-sex marriage has no effect on my life, I have no business denying that right to others, and as an American I feel obligated to support that freedom for others.
    totally agree.

    Since the mid80s, when I first realized the injustice, I've been in favor of SSM.

    I could marry my b/f any day (and finally did) and get him covered by health insurance. A same sex couple couldn't.

    A longtime -we're talking 20 or 30 years - couple - one of them died; his partner had to sell the house because property taxes jumped up so high. This wouldn't have happened if they were married -the property taxes would have been the same.

    So I totally feel for L/G couples who couldn't get married, even though I personally wasn't a lesbian. As you say " Since same-sex marriage has no effect on my life, I have no business denying that right to others, and as an American I feel obligated to support that freedom for others"

    Why Anthony thinks you're telling a lie, I have no idea.

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