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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Sure it can, again: just like an family with step children. Those are still their natural children that THEY produced. And they are just as much a family.

    Or arent they? Not a real family? Or is it not a real straight marriage? Is it 'different?'
    Now you've ventured into fantasy land with that one.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Why would it be? A gay marriage can NEVER have offspring, EVER. That kind of makes it different.
    Neither can an elderly couple.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Why would it be? A gay marriage can NEVER have offspring, EVER. That kind of makes it different.
    Not quite right...you have surrogates and in vitro fertilization. There are plenty of infertile heterosexual couples who also use those technologies to have children and they are allowed to marry so your procreation point is completely moot in the modern world.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Why would it be? A gay marriage can NEVER have offspring, EVER. That kind of makes it different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    Sure it can, again: just like an family with step children. Those are still their natural children that THEY produced. And they are just as much a family.

    Or arent they? Not a real family? Or is it not a real straight marriage? Is it 'different?'

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    Now you've ventured into fantasy land with that one.
    Please point out a single thing that was not a fact in my response.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Not quite right...you have surrogates and in vitro fertilization. There are plenty of infertile heterosexual couples who also use those technologies to have children and they are allowed to marry so your procreation point is completely moot in the modern world.
    See, this kind of a response just indicates you are willfully misunderstanding. I pointed out, as a difference, that a gay couple can not have offspring, while the majority of opposite sex couples can. As in, if we had to depend on gay couples to repopulate the species with same sex relationships, the human race would die out in one genderation.

    You people know what I mean about offspring from two specific people, don't you? Yet you respond as if you have no idea what it means. You point out offspring that are a result of opposite sex couples as examples of gay couples having children. But, I'm in no way surprised, since this is the norm on the left.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Please point out a single thing that was not a fact in my response.
    Ditto...
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    See, this kind of a response just indicates you are willfully misunderstanding. I pointed out, as a difference, that a gay couple can not have offspring, while the majority of opposite sex couples can. As in, if we had to depend on gay couples to repopulate the species with same sex relationships, the human race would die out in one genderation.

    You people know what I mean about offspring from two specific people, don't you? Yet you respond as if you have no idea what it means. You point out offspring that are a result of opposite sex couples as examples of gay couples having children. But, I'm in no way surprised, since this is the norm on the left.
    Since offspring is not a requirement for marriage in the first place, your point is irrelevant.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    1.)See, this kind of a response just indicates you are willfully misunderstanding. I pointed out, as a difference, that a gay couple can not have offspring, while the majority of opposite sex couples can. As in, if we had to depend on gay couples to repopulate the species with same sex relationships, the human race would die out in one genderation.

    2.) You people know what I mean about offspring from two specific people, don't you? Yet you respond as if you have no idea what it means. You point out offspring that are a result of opposite sex couples as examples of gay couples having children.
    3.)But, I'm in no way surprised, since this is the norm on the left.
    1.) which is meaningless to legal marriage and this topic
    2.) yep we understand its meaningless to the topic and a failed strawman by you
    3.) we arent surprised either since many people on the right and left support equal rights and those that argue against it never have any valid point.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    1.) which is meaningless to legal marriage and this topic
    2.) yep we understand its meaningless to the topic and a failed strawman by you
    3.) we arent surprised either since many people on the right and left support equal rights and those that argue against it never have any valid point.
    The entire thing is meaningless, I'm just pointing out a big difference. I'm arguing a states rights issue and unconstitutional federal intervention, so this is just a distraction, I don't care all that much about it and I am not using it. So you've been destroyed again. What else is new?
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    The entire thing is meaningless
    2.) I'm just pointing out a big difference.
    3.) I'm arguing a states rights issue and unconstitutional federal intervention
    4.), so this is just a distraction
    5.), I don't care all that much about it and I am not using it.
    6.) So you've been destroyed again. What else is new?
    1.) no equal/civil/human rights are never meaningless
    2.) you mean a meaningless one
    3.) and this argument fails as proven by facts, laws, rights, court cases and court precedence. There is no unconstitutional federal intervention, the intervention is DRIVEN by the constitution and individual rights. No amount of your OPINION will change this. Its the same reasons the fed was driven to step in for womens rights, minority rights and interracial marriage. All civil/equal rights issues just like SSM.
    4.) yes your strawmen are distractions
    5.) then feel free to stop saying it like it matters lol
    6.) posting this lie will never make it true, it only adds to the humor of your posts failing.
    muiltiple posters have proved you wrong again, with FACTS, and you are right, this isnt new

    as always if you disagree, stay on topic and civil and bring ANY fact to the table that supports your proven wrong claim
    heck just bring ONE FACT to the table that supports your proven wrong claim .. . one

    we have facts, rights, laws, court cases and court precedent that supports us, what do you have again besides saying "nuh-huh"

    my guess is you will dodge this question, AGAIN
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