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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    1.)No, it is your opinion, not a fact.
    2.) And no need to wait, I've posted all my reasoning, choc full o'logic and facts.
    3.) So go ahead and have at it.
    4.) A lot is my opinion, mostly Constitutional issues, but well reasoned.
    5.) I guess that's the difference, you are posting your opinions, not facts, and feel no need to back them up.
    6.) But at this point, it's just banter. I know enough that when someone considers all results to bolster their opinion, there is not much of a point in hitting them with the same argument over and over and expecting a different result.
    translation: you cant, thats what i thought

    1.) nope its a fact backed up by laws, rights, court cases and court precedent
    2.) and it all failed and there were no facts in it
    3.O) we already did and your posts all failed
    4.) all of it was concerning the issue being discussed and not only was it opinion some of it was factually wrong
    5.) facts and evidence already proved you wrong
    6.) translation, you have no facts to support your failed and destroyed arguments. let us know when this changes,

    fact is SSM is a civil/equal rights issue, let us know when you have any facts to change that. Like i siad we have facts, laws, rights court cases and cases precedence on out side what do you have on yours besides "nu-huh" please let us know

    when you are ready to address the actual topic with accurate, logic and facts we'll be here until then your posts have failed
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    While I agree SSM is coming, the longer the SCOTUS waits to rule, the more states will have it, and the more likely it is the SCOTUS will rule in favor of SSM. Yes, sadly, they do get swayed by "popular opinion" to a degree. The other thing is the more states that have it, the more weird cases we get - people moving to a state where they can't divorce, for example - and the more it is apparent that having them legal in some states and not in others isn't working. they need to be legal everywhere.
    correct and this is why i knew the fall of DOMA was huge because it said the ground work for many of those cases. It was a huge stone in the road to equal rights.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Exactly. If Utah voters hadn't passed the amendment, there wouldn't have been anything to bring to the courts; because they did, people stepped up to defend their rights under the federal constitution, and the case ended up in court and the amendment was overturned.

    If they had never voted on it, Utah probably would not (yet) have SSM.
    yep this is another thign i LOVE

    the bigoted and discriminating bannings and moves are actually HELPING establish equal rights, its sweet irony and poetry and its awesome.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    translation: you cant, thats what i thought

    3.) nope its a not fact backed up by laws, rights, court cases and court precedent
    4.) and it all failed and
    422.)there were all facts in it
    2.O) we already did and your posts did not fail
    12.) all of it was concerning the
    6.)issue being discussed and not only was it opinion some of it was fanatically wrong
    9.) facts and evidence already proved you right
    18.) translation, you have facts to support your
    2,394.) powerfull and majestic arguments. let us know when this changes,
    See, show me proof that it is an equal rights issue. There is none, Bob, because it is just an opinion. Everyone has the equal right to marry, you just can't change the definition of marriage without proper laws. See? Do you get it? Of course not. But, that's my opinion.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    1.) See, show me proof that it is an equal rights issue.
    2.)There is none, Bob, because it is just an opinion.
    3.) Everyone has the equal right to marry, you just can't change the definition of marriage without proper laws.
    4.) See? Do you get it? Of course not.
    5.) But, that's my opinion.
    translation you still have ZERO facts that support your destroyed and proven wrong posts so you are deflecting

    do not call my bob use my name and do not change my posts

    1.) thats easy simply look at the cases that went to the SSCs and youll see they all mention equality.
    2.) facts prove this wrong see #1
    3.) facts prove this wrong also see #1
    4.) yes i understand that facts prove your posts wrong and facts, rights, laws, court cases and court precedent all support me and not the fallacy you posted
    5.) yes and facts prove it wrong

    i again state and ask fact is SSM is a civil/equal rights issue, let us know when you have any facts to change that. Like i siad we have facts, laws, rights court cases and cases precedence on out side what do you have on yours besides "nu-huh" please let us know

    when you are ready to address the actual topic with accurate, logic and facts we'll be here until then your posts have failed, simply post any facts that support you, my guess is you will dodge this request again
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    See, show me proof that it is an equal rights issue. There is none, Bob, because it is just an opinion. Everyone has the equal right to marry, you just can't change the definition of marriage without proper laws. See? Do you get it? Of course not. But, that's my opinion.
    Gee, the definition was changed in the sixties to allow interracial marriage. So yeah, courts can change the definition of marriage. As can legislators. As can voters.

    What voters CAN'T do is take away someone's rights through the voting process.

    Look, you've lost. There is no good reason to deny same sex couples the right to marry. Period. And that means, under the federal constitution, it can't be denied. The SCOTUS has declared marriage a right; you can only deny constitutional rights for a very good reason, and no one has one in this case.

    And why am I even bothering to type this?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep this is another thign i LOVE

    the bigoted and discriminating bannings and moves are actually HELPING establish equal rights, its sweet irony and poetry and its awesome.
    Should we send all the bigots thank you cards? maybe with some daisies?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Should we send all the bigots thank you cards? maybe with some daisies?
    lol that be sweet but see the majority of the ACTUAL bigots would just be in denial, they would either never admit they played a role or wouldnt be smart enough to understand their bigotry help establish equality.

    but i do love it, its awesome that the banning are actually helping, hilarious and i wish i could see the look on some of their faces when they realized it.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    I believe that bigotry should be a state's rights issue.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    I say let em get married. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg.

    Let em experience the joy of a good divorce lawyer like the rest of us.
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