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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I posted a very understandable, logical statement. Very easy to read, actually. You posted some mangled, disjointed stream of consciousness and think you just unified quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity.

    I really can't help you when you are going to use your own brand of logic. Fortunately, I've dealt with your type enough that this is no big surprise.
    still got nothing to support your failed claim i see, let us know when you do.
    simply post ONE single fact that supports your failed claim instead of dodging this task and trying to deflect with failed insults lol

    ONE fact that supports your failed post is all we need.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I see what the problem is. You think that the the federal government can step in whenever it wants to fix something. Actually, they can't. They have to have that power granted by the Constitution.

    Also, the federal government is not on an equal playing field with the Constitution. It is controlled by the Constitution, which was created by the states. The states created the federal government and the Constitution, and may get rid of both or either if enough states decide to do so.
    And the constitution demands equal protection under the law, and the states are bound by that. You are defending the existence of an unconstitutional law under the guise of states rights.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Let me clear it up for you. Saying anyone can marry someone of the opposite sex and saying anyone can marry someone of the opposite sex that is the same race as they are is not the same.

    Why is the logic not the same? "Everyone is free to marry someone of the same race" was an argument for interracial marriage bans. That logic was rejected.

    You are saying "everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite gender." Why is this acceptable with gender and not race? It's not enough to just declare it's "not the same."
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Why is the logic not the same? "Everyone is free to marry someone of the same race" was an argument for interracial marriage bans. That logic was rejected.

    You are saying "everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite gender." Why is this acceptable with gender and not race? It's not enough to just declare it's "not the same."
    You brought up the race factor and are using it as a basis to redefine marriage to include, not a race component, but a gender component. Namely, to expand it to include same sex. Race has nothing to do with it, yet you feel it does. The correlation is weak, at best.

    And I'll say again, I don't think that our federal government has the power to intervene here, it is a state issue.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    still got nothing to support your failed claim i see, let us know when you do.
    simply post ONE single fact that supports your failed claim instead of dodging this task and trying to deflect with failed insults lol

    ONE fact that supports your failed post is all we need.
    Come up with something new, factual, or interesting please. You are beginning to bore the hell out of me.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You brought up the race factor and are using it as a basis to redefine marriage to include, not a race component, but a gender component. Namely, to expand it to include same sex. Race has nothing to do with it, yet you feel it does. The correlation is weak, at best.

    And I'll say again, I don't think that our federal government has the power to intervene here, it is a state issue.
    In other words, you have a personal definition of marriage that you don't want to change despite the fact that it already had. Marriage already includes same sex couples, whether you approve or not. You do not own the definition of marriage. You do not own the right to tell others that they cannot legally be involved in marriage because you think that it is only between two people of the opposite sex.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    you have a personal definition of marriage
    His existence does not alter the fact that only very recently, and for political reasons, has marriage ever been claimed to mean same sex, and certainly not federally.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    His existence does not alter the fact that only very recently, and for political reasons, has marriage ever been claimed to mean same sex, and certainly not federally.
    First, all such changes are political in nature. Second, something being political has no bearing on whether or not that change is morally right.

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