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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Taking in an orphan sounds like parenting.

    That is what the army does.
    Who said they were taken in by anyone? Many orphans live in group homes or on the street, and this was especially true of those who were being forced to work prior to child labor laws.

    Still haven't answered my question.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who said they were taken in by anyone? Many orphans live in group homes or on the street, and this was especially true of those who were being forced to work prior to child labor laws.

    Still haven't answered my question.
    Forced to work?

    What question do you think I will answer with yes the state should discriminate after I said numerous times I do not support state discrimination?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you dont have to agree thats the way it is, i wasnt discussing opinions
    That's a non answer.

    2.) correct and the body the protects our rights is also the fed cant have one without the other and the state cant violate individual rights and thats why the fed is fixing it
    That's wrong, the Constitution protects our rights, not the federal government. Without the Constitution, the federal government would have taken most of your rights long ago.

    3.) one again this has nothgin to do with me this is the way it is and this is not giving the fed more power its what they already do and are supposed to do.
    And that's the way the fed gets more power. It's like slowly boiling a frog. All of a sudden, it's too late, and you're screwed. As in all of us, not just the right or left.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    1.)That's a non answer.
    2.) That's wrong, the Constitution protects our rights, not the federal government. Without the Constitution, the federal government would have taken most of your rights long ago.
    3.)And that's the way the fed gets more power. It's like slowly boiling a frog. All of a sudden, it's too late, and you're screwed. As in all of us, not just the right or left.
    1.) wrong again its an answer and it was correcting your false assumption.
    2.) nope wrong again its a check and balance they both do this with out the fed the constitution would be meaningless

    fact remains the state cant violate individual rights so its being fixed
    3.) theres nothing in my post that gives the fed more power this strawman of yours is a complete failure.

    NOTHING is changing the fed and for that matter in theses cases the SSCs are doing their jobs
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Forced to work?

    What question do you think I will answer with yes the state should discriminate after I said numerous times I do not support state discrimination?
    The state does discriminate and deep down you do support at least a very basic form of it because you support children being forced to be under the control of their parents and I'm sure, despite your constant deflection (or due to it really), that you support at least some age discrimination and even discrimination based on mental health. Unless you are going to tell me that you don't think a child whose parents die should be taken into someone's custody, state or at least some adult, should their parents die.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The state does discriminate and deep down you do support at least a very basic form of it because you support children being forced to be under the control of their parents
    I do not support state discrimination at all. Not on any case. None.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That sure looks like what you said to me. If it isn't feel free to clarify.
    Let me clear it up for you. Saying anyone can marry someone of the opposite sex and saying anyone can marry someone of the opposite sex that is the same race as they are is not the same.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Sorry, can't agree with that. Our Constitution is there to protect our rights, especially from the federal government. If you are out there pushing for more federal power just because it's an issue you agree with, you might end up in a place you don't want to be in when they use that power against you.
    Those are the exact same words the racists used when opposing bi-racial marriage.

    Did you ever tell us which of your rights was being abused? I hope it's different than the racists' claims. Let's hear it, I'll let you know.

    The Loving vs. VA decision wasnt about people liking it or not liking it...it was about someone's civil rights.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That is such a warped, strange answer that has nothing to do with anything.
    No, she's referring to how far you have to take an argument and contort it, in an attempt to try and make your point. To a ridiculous extreme which should be an indication to you that your argument really isnt valid.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not support state discrimination at all. Not on any case. None.
    Sure, keep telling yourself that. Pretty sure this isn't true, no matter what you think.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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