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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    You are against discrimination by the state. Currently states discriminated against kids by not letting them drive. Therefore, you are ok with 5 yr olds driving.
    Sounds like a bad parenting issue.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sounds like a bad parenting issue.

    ROFL!!! you do love repeating yourself, don't you? around and around and around. Do you ever get dizzy?

    Not playing with you anymore; got a book to read. Have fun chasing your tail!

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Supporting the state banning or enforcing discrimination in marriage or anything else is supporting state discrimination. I do not support state discrimination.
    I think that instead you've just tried to create yourself a definition wherein you actually support discrimination on part of the State but can try to claim that you don't.

    As I said, this is nothing more than simple logic.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I have no problem with private discrimination.
    That isn't private discrimination. It is enforced and in fact required by the government, the state. It is not private discrimination. It is absolutely public discrimination based on age. A 5 year old has no chance of succeeding in petitioning the state for complete control of and responsibility for their actions, especially if their is no actual flaw in the parenting of the child. Even a 10 year old doesn't stand a chance. Most 15 or 16 year olds could not be granted emancipation from their parents just because they want it. That is state enforced discrimination.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    support discrimination
    Again, I do not support state discrimination. And I do not need to support any state policy for this to occur.

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    got a book to read
    Fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That isn't private discrimination. It is enforced and in fact required by the government, the state. It is not private discrimination. It is absolutely public discrimination based on age. A 5 year old has no chance of succeeding in petitioning the state for complete control of and responsibility for their actions, especially if their is no actual flaw in the parenting of the child. Even a 10 year old doesn't stand a chance. Most 15 or 16 year olds could not be granted emancipation from their parents just because they want it. That is state enforced discrimination.
    You are not talking about parents?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post

    Fiction?
    actually, no, not this time - a book by Chris Kluwe, an NFL punter who came out strongly in favor of SSM (even though he's straight) and was hassled pretty badly for it. It's called "Beautifully Unique Sparkleponies" ; you and others might want to try it. He has some pretty compelling arguments for how he feels, and he discusses more than just SSM.

    Has a nice segment on why is he paid so much when teachers aren't; worth reading.

    back to it!

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    actually, no, not this time - a book by Chris Kluwe, an NFL punter who came out strongly in favor of SSM
    When did his book come out and when was he fired? Are they close together?

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

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    Cool for you?
    Sure. It's just a reflection of your discussion.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Here are the details from Kluwe's perspective (and yes, it's his perspective, the team may disagree)

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    Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sounds like a bad parenting issue.
    Sounds like an inability to reject or affirm her statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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