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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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calamity said:
Oh, so no MSNBC is a "News Show". Really? Isn't that convenient.


No. He attacked her asinine position, comparing slavery to the national debt, which resulted in a crude remark.
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She said economic slavery which is a valid concept.
 
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justabubba said:
oh, he said something extremely ignorant
he believes that homosexuals should have less rights than heterosexuals. how is that NOT an ignorant statement
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Could you quote for me that truly ignorant statement, because I must have missed it.

it is phil robertson who is putting his intolerance on display, NOT the LGBT community ... all they want is to be treated with equality
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I'm just going to clarify, I have no problems with any gay individual, I truly don't care.

However, this gay agenda is not about equality, it's about forcing their lifestyle down everyone's throats.

Tolerance is to put up with, not to embrace. Unless I missed something, Phil Robertson has stated his disgust with gays, but doesn't say anything about them being less human.

Whereas, GLAAD has demonstrated that they are not tolerant of religious viewpoints, and will put their weight to attack the church and anyone demonstrating their opinions. They don't want "equality" they want a protected status.
 
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Mason66 said:
A&E didn't know they had a problem with anything he said until GLAAD told them they did.
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It is odd that A&E reacted this way considering that being fundie rednecks is the whole Dynasty schtick. It's like they suspended the old man for quacking like a Duck.
 
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He can hold dissenting opinions. But in his case his employer fired him for his. Dont you think an employer should be able to fire an employee at will?
Dr. Chuckles said:
of course they will, because people don't like the idea that they can't hold dissenting opinions
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Dr. Chuckles said:
lol, is this a serious question? If not news programming, what exactly is the type of programming you think MSNBC is peddling?
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Same crap fox peddles: Infotainment.

Calamity, if I suggest someone needs to **** in your mouth, clearly my comments are directed at you as an individual, not the idea you are expressing. Because ****ting in your mouth does nothing to address the idea you are expressing
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Are you intentionally avoiding context? I suspect you're not dumb. So, the avoidance is obviously agenda driven.

If someone says being sent to jail for drunk driving is like being made a political prisoner in North Korea. And, if we know part of being a prisoner in North Korea is to be forced to eat ****. THen, it is perfectly acceptable to rebut the drunken idiot's comment by suggesting he needs to eat some **** to discover what being a prisoner in North Korea is really all about.
 
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Mason66 said:
She said economic slavery which is a valid concept.
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Uh, no she did not. SHe said exactly this.
"Our free stuff today is being paid for by taking money from our children and borrowing from China," the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate said at a Faith and Freedom Coalition fundraiser Saturday night, according to the Des Moines Register. "When that money comes due – and this isn’t racist -- but it’ll be like slavery when that note is due. We are going to beholden to the foreign master."
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Here's a clue. When you have to say, "This is not racist", it probably is.
 
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From Sarah to Martin to Phil, Matt Taibbi nails it. This whole series of events explains just how disconnected the Right is from reality.

If your "moderate" presidential candidate from 2012, the guy who was bashed by the party base for being insufficiently hardcore, is a guy who essentially said, after a failed speech to the N.A.A.C.P., that all black voters want is "free stuff," then you're just not going to win a lot of elections in a country that's going to be majority nonwhite within a few decades.

Similarly, if your party's political rhetoric is full of suggestions that poor people are poor because they don't like to work, well, you're not going to win a lot of votes from poor people, who also happen to be increasingly many in number. That's not a misunderstanding or an injustice, that's just a fact.

Whether or not Robertson and his entertainingly hairy family should have been fired is beside the point. The point is that A&E realized there was no way to make the numbers work if they had a guy who thinks black people were happier before civil rights as a front man.

It surely wasn't personal, but just a business decision, and not a terribly hard one, either. It's weird that the Republican Party has such trouble making the same kind of call in choosing its leading characters.



Read more: On Sarah Palin's Impressively Incoherent 'Duck Dynasty' Comments | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone
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calamity said:
Uh, no she did not. SHe said exactly this.


Here's a clue. When you have to say, "This is not racist", it probably is.
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What she described was economic slavery. Where is the racist part of what she said?
 
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calamity said:
From Sarah to Martin to Phil, Matt Taibbi nails it. This whole series of events explains just how disconnected the Right is from reality.
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isn't this ignoring the fact that the seemingly majority of talk over the remarks concerned his stated views on homosexuality? Seems people are now citing his remarks on southern race relations (during jim crow?) as an after thought
 
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Mason66 said:
What she described was economic slavery. Where is the racist part of what she said?
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See. THat's why the GOP gets like 4% of the Black vote---tone deafness.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
A&E certainly has a right to terminate his employment, but let's not act as if their actions were anything but a response to a threatened boycott. A threatened boycott designed to remove his speech from the public arena and an act that serves no larger agenda in a positive manner. As I said, all it accomplishes is to push such attitudes and views underground and lend legitimacy to them through the perception of persecution. You're better off just using your own public podium to address them and reveal them for the stupidity they are
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Bullchit, economic attacks upon those holding anti-societal (homophobic, racist) view are completely legitimate and are among the the most effective tool for eliminating their influence.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
isn't this ignoring the fact that the seemingly majority of talk over the remarks concerned his stated views on homosexuality? Seems people are now citing his remarks on southern race relations (during jim crow?) as an after thought
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Point is--the Right chooses the most despicable spokespeople. And, instead of cutting ties with the Slut calling Limbaugh, the race-baiting Pailn, and the homophobic Robertson, they double down and stay with the rich con artists as the sinking ship called the GOP continues to go down.

However, I am now seeing why that is...you guys are completely tone deaf. You have no idea that you're alienating more and more people every single day. That is truly stunning.
 
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calamity said:
Point is--the Right chooses the most despicable spokespeople. And, instead of cutting ties with the Slut calling Limbaugh, the race-baiting Pailn, and the homophobic Robertson, they double down and stay with the rich con artists as the sinking ship called the GOP continues to go down.
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You're a great spokesperson yourself. :lol:
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Bullchit, economic attacks upon those holding anti-societal (homophobic, racist) view are completely legitimate and are among the the most effective tool for eliminating their influence.
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That's just it. They don't realize the massive rising tide which has turned against hate speech. I imagine that the fact that entertainment companies aim for the 18-30 crowd, will do everything in their power not to offend them, goes whoosh over their heads.

I suspect it's living in the Fox Bubble coming back to haunt them. After all, how many Right Wingers were so disconnected from reality that they swore Romney would win on election day eve?
 
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mak2 said:
I rarely go shopping besides tools, bicycle stores and sporting goods stores, but this time of year I do go Christmas shopping. One of the things I noticed was all the Duck Dynasty stuff everywhere. I bet this whole thing is advertising just like Chik-FilA thing was. I bet the dynasty sells a lot more stuff because of it.
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Which is exactly why I think this has played out the way it has. Didn't someone say he has a Masters in communication? If so, I would think he has had a fair amount of sociology classes and would know the results his words would bring. This was premeditated in my opinion, and he /the brand is benefitting from it no doubt.
 
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Henrin said:
You're a great spokesperson yourself. :lol:
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lol...don't let a name and avatar fool you.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Which is exactly why I think this has played out the way it has. Didn't someone say he has a Masters in communication? If so, I would think he has had a fair amount of sociology classes and would know the results his words would bring. This was premeditated in my opinion, and he /he brand is benefitting from it no doubt.
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I think the "Dynasty" is brilliant. THe show was well done--A+, actually. And, the business side of the Duck Command will only grow at this point. Agreed.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Which is exactly why I think this has played out the way it has. Didn't someone say he has a Masters in communication? If so, I would think he has had a fair amount of sociology classes and would know the results his words would bring. This was premeditated in my opinion, and he /the brand is benefitting from it no doubt.
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masters in ed
bachelors in phys ed
louisianna tech
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Which is exactly why I think this has played out the way it has. Didn't someone say he has a Masters in communication? If so, I would think he has had a fair amount of sociology classes and would know the results his words would bring. This was premeditated in my opinion, and he /the brand is benefitting from it no doubt.
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He has a masters in education. He knows exactly what the repercussions of his bigoted and racist rhetoric would be. Problem is he thought that because A&E was making so much money that they would let him get away with it.
The asshole thought wrong.
 
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and played ahead of Terry Bradshaw--during the highly celebrated in high school Bradshaw's freshman season--
then quit football to go Duck hunting--
think Bradshaw will make a "limbaugh" type of mistake on air defending Duck, since Terry is a TEAt ?
justabubba said:
masters in ed
bachelors in phys ed
louisianna tech
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NIMBY said:
and played ahead of Terry Bradshaw--during the highly celebrated in high school Bradshaw's freshman season--
then quit football to go Duck hunting--
think Bradshaw will make a "limbaugh" type of mistake on air defending Duck, since Terry is a TEAt ?
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with terry you don't know what is going to happen until the drugs kick in
 
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I find the history between Terry and Duck fascinating..
I surmise we haven't heard the end of this new escalating faux outrage, what with Palin, Cruz, Jindal..
They're all over Google..
justabubba said:
with terry you don't know what is going to happen until the drugs kick in
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justabubba said:
here are his statements:


no doubt. phil robertson is a bigot. his own words condemn him
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Sounds more like your standard belief in homosexuality being a sin, and the slippery slope thing added on. Does that qualify as bigotry?

The second statement I see no bigotry in. Perhaps some context is missing?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
He has a masters in education. He knows exactly what the repercussions of his bigoted and racist rhetoric would be. Problem is he thought that because A&E was making so much money that they would let him get away with it.
The asshole thought wrong.
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You progressives think that if you keep repeating the same false narrative enough it will, it's just foolish. But entertaining.
 
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