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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

WCH said:
I took theology out of the debate.

Couldn't a person with a logical mind come to the conclusion that those things were not wise for people to partake in?
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I think you are stretching it. I have no interest in such a debate. I think committed relationships are healthy, yes. that is as far as I would go.

we were talking about it in legal terms though.

Some provisions in the 1964 civil rights act changes the employee/employer relationship for protected classes, such as religion which makes this story slightly more convoluted.
 
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OscarB63 said:
what part of "all contracts are not the same" is too complex for you to understand?
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What part of speculating that moral, ethics, clauses were NOT in his contract...is so hard for you to understand?

FFS....this is so pathetic!


there is nothing in my contract that prevents me from giving interviews. the only thing my contract prohibits is releasing propriatary information
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Non-sequitur....who cares? You can now say ANYTHING about your clauses....there is no proof.



you're the one crying about it. take your ball and go home if you don't like.
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Crying? Please. If you have nothing to add to the conversation, go away.



I'm not speculating on anything. merely pointing out that you made a claim that you cannot back up
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You are speculating that his contract DOES NOT have ethics clauses.





and again...not all contracts are identical.
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and again, non-sequitur....i did not say they are.....BUT....the fact is that ethic/morality clauses ARE very common.

If you have a better explanation for A&E cause for suspension, state it.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Most honest people know what he was trying to do. When people say that statement, they somehow keep pointing to the same exact "sins" and do so out of proportion to their evil. If the man had said homosexuality is part of a national sickness which includes being cranky with your neighbor, the implication may be that homosexuality isn't so bad. It's a rhetorical device meant to demonstrate how much the person despises homosexuality, and to what awful extent God bars you from the Kingdom.
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Great logic there, Skippy: if one disagrees with your opinion then they are being dishonest. ;)
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Great logic there, Skippy: if one disagrees with your opinion then they are being dishonest. ;)
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Yup. It's good to be right occasionally.
 
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OscarB63 said:
again...I am not the one making claims that I cannot backup
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I don't have to back them up, I am making an argument of most likely scenario.

Now go ahead and nit pick.....and believe that it changes the reality of the situation.
 
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NIMBY said:
I haven't read all of these posts but did do a slight Google on Duck..

Dude started ahead of Terry Bradshaw at Louisiana Tech before quitting football
after his sophomore year to focus on hunting..Many pro scouts though he had a career..

Then he had his difficult decade..
Choices--we all live with the aftermath of our choices .
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Then he found Jesus, gave up booze and pills, got a master's degree and became a millionaire.
Sweet!
 
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Noone's life is that simple..
I suspect he just wants to go back to full-time hunting .
WCH said:
Then he found Jesus, gave up booze and pills, got a master's degree and became a millionaire.
Sweet!
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WCH said:
Having religious beliefs makes one a bigot...I see.

That would be 'your' opinion.
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no, having - and expressing bigoted beliefs - is what makes one a bigot
phil ****ed the duck on this one
 
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apdst said:
Exactly! Another part of the reason that the hitman doing the interview, because he KNEW what Robertson was going to say.

It was a set-up from the git-go.
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I also have to believe Phil 'knew' where that interview was going and intentionally used it as a platform to reach that particular audience who would likely not be familiar with the show or Christian teachings. Genius fisher of men
 
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Fiddytree said:
I've heard this "sins are equal" line. It's mostly cute, but I do not believe you will find a single person that literally approaches the problem this way. All you have to do is find one instance where he expresses the thought that one is higher than the other, and the system crumbles.
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Truism...all sins are equal in that they all separate us from God. Billy Graham
 
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WCH said:
I also have to believe Phil 'knew' where that interview was going and intentionally used it as a platform to reach that particular audience who would likely not be familiar with the show or Christian teachings. Genius fisher of men
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fisher for bigots of the same ilk is more like it
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
What part of speculating that moral, ethics, clauses were NOT in his contract...is so hard for you to understand?
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what part of "speculation" =/= fact is so hard for you to understand? I'm not the one speculating about his contract and then claiming that I know for a fact the reason he was suspended.

FWIW, I'm making no claims whatsoever that you are right or wrong. only that you cannot know "for a fact" he was suspended for violating his contract.
 
ARealConservative said:
I think you are stretching it. I have no interest in such a debate. I think committed relationships are healthy, yes. that is as far as I would go.

we were talking about it in legal terms though.

Some provisions in the 1964 civil rights act changes the employee/employer relationship for protected classes, such as religion which makes this story slightly more convoluted.
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An honest answer would suffice.

You were making out like it made you happy to see Phil removed from the show due to his religious beliefs. I took that fact out of the equation.
 
WCH said:
An honest answer would suffice.

You were making out like it made you happy to see Phil removed from the show due to his religious beliefs. I took that fact out of the equation.
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I'm sorry you could't understand what I was saying. maybe if you read it again. or not.

who cares.
 
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calamity said:
Well, Phil wasn't technically "fired" either. Or was he?

The results though are the same. So...whatevs.
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Which is also something I've had to remind some of in this thread. And no, the results aren't the same for being fired as opposed to resigning.
 
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Ikari said:
When you can back up your myth claim, you'll gain some credibility. But regardless, this thread is not about that, but allowing the ignorant to say ignorant things.
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That's what A&E did. What's funny is that right now there's 1.5 MILLION "Likes" on Facebook for the page, "Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty." Oohrah!
 
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Kobie said:
That's absolutely asinine.
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Yep....thats more than a weee bit of a stretch...
 
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WCH said:
God's word predates political correctness...my man.
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homophobia is not political correctness
advocating homophobia is bigotry
 
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OscarB63 said:
what part of "speculation" =/= fact is so hard for you to understand? I'm not the one speculating about his contract and then claiming that I know for a fact the reason he was suspended.

FWIW, I'm making no claims whatsoever that you are right or wrong. only that you cannot know "for a fact" he was suspended for violating his contract.
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Like I said, you and the rest can key off on one word I used, ignore the rest of the argument.......and then pretend while doing your touchdown dance.........that you have changed the reality of the situation.

Hint: This was not an act of god....the POTUS, SCOTUS nor Congress got involved. A&E suspended a contract actor via provisions in his contract, it was not done because a producer just felt like it.

Your weak, pointless attacks upon what I believe happened.....doesn't change the fact that it happened. Negating, is not disproving.

If you have nothing to say as far as your beliefs as to HOW A&E suspended.....then you have nothing to add.
 
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WCH said:
He didn't 'advocate' homophobia.
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again, i strongly disagree with your incorrect statement
he expressed his opposition to homosexuality and attempted to use the bible to justify his bigotry
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Like I said, you and the rest can key off on one word I used, ignore the rest of the argument.......and then pretend while doing your touchdown dance.........that you have changed the reality of the situation.

Hint: This was not an act of god....the POTUS, SCOTUS nor Congress got involved. A&E suspended a contract actor via provisions in his contract, it was not done because a producer just felt like it.

Your weak, pointless attacks upon what I believe happened.....doesn't change the fact that it happened. Negating, is not disproving.

If you have nothing to say as far as your beliefs as to HOW A&E suspended.....then you have nothing to add.
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I know for a fact that you do not know for a fact. simple as that.
 
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Kreton said:
mocking and discriminating are not the same thing. To say that its ok to mock people who are views or anything you disagree with is ok and your right, but then to turn around and say its wrong and discrimination to do it for things you agree with is idiotic and hypocritical. The double standard idea that you seem to be trying to justify is not going work.
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You are the one seeking special treatment for your opinion.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Christianity has the ability to change viewpoints, as it has on many occasions (including this one). So I do not completely indict Christianity, no.
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Do you really think that Christianity will change homosexuality to not being a sin?
 
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